On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
>
>> On 28 Apr 2017, at 15:55, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.morta...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 28 Apr 2017, at 15:49, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.morta...@xwiki.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
>>>>> Status
>>>>> ======
>>>>>
>>>>> So I’ve progressed in this with Kevin (who’s an infra admin at XWiki SAS).
>>>>>
>>>>> We now have an instance ready.
>>>>>
>>>>> What’s left to do:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Configure reply by email. I’m currently trying to do that with Kevin. 
>>>>> The principle is that you receive mail from discourse and we set in 
>>>>> discourse a reply-to email address so that when you reply to the mail, it 
>>>>> goes to a mail inbox somewhere (some gmail account for example). Then 
>>>>> discourse is configured to check (using POP3, they don’t seem to support 
>>>>> IMAP ATM) that inbox and to process mails found in it and update the 
>>>>> topics. Note that even if we don’t configure this, users can still 
>>>>> receive emails for all posts but they will just need to click on the link 
>>>>> to go the webpage and answer. It’s not the end of the world either.
>>>>
>>>> Does it also support starting new discussion by mail or only reply ?
>>>
>>> It seems so:
>>>
>>> " You can start topics, reply to topics, have a mailing list mode where you 
>>> get an email per post on the forum or post on the category.
>>>
>>> Longer term we plan to add some "secret commands" that allow you to like a 
>>> post or flag a post via email.
>>>
>>> Overall mailing list parity is pretty high here and we support a bunch of 
>>> stuff mailing lists do not.”
>>>
>>> From https://meta.discourse.org/t/start-a-new-topic-via-email/12477/6
>>
>> In that case another idea for the migration would be to make Discourse
>> monitor us...@xwiki.org instead of making it readonly.
>
> I thought about this but AFAIU this wouldn’t work.
>
> The email address used to reply to posts is of the form:
>
> <prefix>+<topickey>@<domain name>
>
> For example: discourse-replies+xx...@xwiki.org

For replies sure but for new topics ?

>
> So I don’t think it would work to POP us...@xwiki.org (and we don’t have a 
> POP-able inbox for users mail either AFAIK).

This is not really an issue. You just need to setup a regular mail
account behind us...@xwiki.org instead of a mailing list, exactly like
what Kevin is probably currently doing for whatever mail address you
decided to use for Discourse replies.

>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> * Decide on the migration path. See below
>>>>>
>>>>> * Decide if we migrate only users or also devs. FTM I suggest that we do 
>>>>> only users and see how it goes and if we’re happy we can decide to move 
>>>>> devs data too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Migration Path
>>>>> ============
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> * On a given date that we advertise on the users list, we configure this 
>>>>> list to be readonly and not allow more posts. We invite users to register 
>>>>> on our discourse instance and use that.
>>>>> * We don’t import our archives since it’s complex 
>>>>> (https://meta.discourse.org/t/howto-import-mbox-mailing-list-files/51233) 
>>>>> and there’s not a perfect mapping. We can always do that in the future if 
>>>>> someone really wants to work on that.
>>>>> * We create a markmail user in our discourse instance and configure it to 
>>>>> receive all posts. We set its email address to be us...@xwiki.org and we 
>>>>> configure the users list to accept mail from our discourse instance. This 
>>>>> allows to keep having a place where we can search in all places by using 
>>>>> markmail. Incidentally this also means that nabble and gmane will 
>>>>> continue to archive our mails which is nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 Feb 2017, at 12:18, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi devs,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m proposing to vote for moving away from our users and devs mailing 
>>>>>> list and instead to use the Discourse open source tool:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Home page: http://www.discourse.org/
>>>>>> * License: GPL v2
>>>>>> * FAQ: http://www.discourse.org/faq/
>>>>>> * Awesome feature list: http://www.discourse.org/about/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is especially interesting for us:
>>>>>> * It works with mailing lists (you can receive mails and send mails to 
>>>>>> the forum).
>>>>>> * Works as a forum. BTW if you want to see a real life instance, check 
>>>>>> the gradle instance at https://discuss.gradle.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice things:
>>>>>> * Works on mobile
>>>>>> * Comprehensive API (would allow us to integrate it with xwiki.org)
>>>>>> * Badges/user metrics
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So here’s my +1 to try it out and ask XWiki SAS if they could host an 
>>>>>> instance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WDYT? Do you see any negative point (I don’t ATM)? :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please cast your votes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Thomas Mortagne
>>>
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