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Not good with mails today...

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:42 AM Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.morta...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>
> And why do you guys think about raisin the history to 30 at least
> platform pipeline jobs?
>
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:39 AM Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 6 Sep 2019, at 10:35, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.morta...@xwiki.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:32 AM Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Simon,
> > >>
> > >>> On 6 Sep 2019, at 10:27, Simon Urli <simon.u...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi all,
> > >>>
> > >>> On 05/09/2019 17:40, Simon Urli wrote:
> > >>>> On 05/09/2019 17:24, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> > >>>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:43 PM Simon Urli <simon.u...@xwiki.com> 
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi everyone,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> reopening this thread since I started to close some flicker issues as
> > >>>>>> part of BFD and got comments for those.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> So the last mails on this threads suggested to close the flicker 
> > >>>>>> issues
> > >>>>>> if we didn't manage to reproduce them locally after a repeated tests,
> > >>>>>> and that we didn't see them after a while.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> We didn't vote for those suggestion and I assumed a bit quick that I
> > >>>>>> could close some flicker issues that I personally don't remember 
> > >>>>>> about
> > >>>>>> on the CI after having tested them locally.
> > >>>>>> My point for doing that is the same as for the first mail I posted on
> > >>>>>> this thread: those flickers are old, and the code did change enough 
> > >>>>>> for
> > >>>>>> those to be fixed in a way or another.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Being old does not always means the code leading to those failures
> > >>>>> changed that much.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Now I might be completely wrong, and the flicker to happen again, 
> > >>>>>> but I
> > >>>>>> don't think it's a problem since we can really easily open back the
> > >>>>>> issues if it's the case.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The other solution IMO is to indeed keep the issue open and in fact 
> > >>>>>> to
> > >>>>>> never really close them, because we just don't have time to 
> > >>>>>> investigate
> > >>>>>> each of them properly.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I really don't see any value of keeping things open and don't act on
> > >>>>>> them, that's why I suggest to close them after doing the checks we
> > >>>>>> suggested before:
> > >>>>>>    1. try to repeat locally the failure;
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This is totally useless IMO unless you make sure that your computer is
> > >>>>> made super slow some way since that's the reason for most of the
> > >>>>> flickering tests.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>    2. check that we didn't encounter those flickers since last cycle.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This one is enough for me but the hard part is to knowing that.
> > >>>> Ok, so the proposal is now to check only the age since last time we 
> > >>>> saw them of the open flickers before closing them.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> So first question, do we all agree on that?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Then for the second check, Vincent suggested to add some tooling: it
> > >>>>>> will be best, but it takes time to do. So on the meantime, as Thomas
> > >>>>>> also suggested, we could add a check in the release plan to create or
> > >>>>>> update all jira issues that concerns flickers. It would allow us to 
> > >>>>>> keep
> > >>>>>> some information about the liveness of our flickers.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> So second question, do you agree on that?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Depends what it exactly means. Have some dedicated jira field to
> > >>>>> indicate when you saw it last ? Comment that you just saw that test
> > >>>>> failing again ?
> > >>>> My suggestion was about a dedicated JIRA field if possible.
> > >>>
> > >>> So, ok if I create a new custom field in JIRA for flickers, called 
> > >>> "Date of last failure for flicker”?
> > >>
> > >> [snip]
> > >>
> > >> I don’t see how it’ll help since it’ll never be up to date, and the old 
> > >> value will remain making us think it’s not been flickering for a long 
> > >> time.
> > >
> > > In my mind the idea is not so much to use this field as a criteria to
> > > close an issue but as a criteria to not close it.
> >
> > ok, as long as we don’t use it for closing, I’m fine :)
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> -Vincent
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thomas Mortagne
> >
>
>
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> Thomas Mortagne



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