> On 6 Sep 2019, at 10:42, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.morta...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> 
> And why do you guys think about raisin the history to 30 at least
> platform pipeline jobs?

We need to first check if we have enough disk space first, it’s going to 
consume a lot of it. 

Also, we would need to monitor closely for perf issues and roll it back if it 
doesn’t go well.

Thanks
-Vincent

> 
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:39 AM Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6 Sep 2019, at 10:35, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.morta...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:32 AM Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Simon,
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6 Sep 2019, at 10:27, Simon Urli <simon.u...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 05/09/2019 17:40, Simon Urli wrote:
>>>>>> On 05/09/2019 17:24, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:43 PM Simon Urli <simon.u...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> reopening this thread since I started to close some flicker issues as
>>>>>>>> part of BFD and got comments for those.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So the last mails on this threads suggested to close the flicker issues
>>>>>>>> if we didn't manage to reproduce them locally after a repeated tests,
>>>>>>>> and that we didn't see them after a while.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We didn't vote for those suggestion and I assumed a bit quick that I
>>>>>>>> could close some flicker issues that I personally don't remember about
>>>>>>>> on the CI after having tested them locally.
>>>>>>>> My point for doing that is the same as for the first mail I posted on
>>>>>>>> this thread: those flickers are old, and the code did change enough for
>>>>>>>> those to be fixed in a way or another.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Being old does not always means the code leading to those failures
>>>>>>> changed that much.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Now I might be completely wrong, and the flicker to happen again, but I
>>>>>>>> don't think it's a problem since we can really easily open back the
>>>>>>>> issues if it's the case.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The other solution IMO is to indeed keep the issue open and in fact to
>>>>>>>> never really close them, because we just don't have time to investigate
>>>>>>>> each of them properly.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I really don't see any value of keeping things open and don't act on
>>>>>>>> them, that's why I suggest to close them after doing the checks we
>>>>>>>> suggested before:
>>>>>>>>   1. try to repeat locally the failure;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is totally useless IMO unless you make sure that your computer is
>>>>>>> made super slow some way since that's the reason for most of the
>>>>>>> flickering tests.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   2. check that we didn't encounter those flickers since last cycle.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This one is enough for me but the hard part is to knowing that.
>>>>>> Ok, so the proposal is now to check only the age since last time we saw 
>>>>>> them of the open flickers before closing them.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So first question, do we all agree on that?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Then for the second check, Vincent suggested to add some tooling: it
>>>>>>>> will be best, but it takes time to do. So on the meantime, as Thomas
>>>>>>>> also suggested, we could add a check in the release plan to create or
>>>>>>>> update all jira issues that concerns flickers. It would allow us to 
>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>> some information about the liveness of our flickers.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So second question, do you agree on that?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Depends what it exactly means. Have some dedicated jira field to
>>>>>>> indicate when you saw it last ? Comment that you just saw that test
>>>>>>> failing again ?
>>>>>> My suggestion was about a dedicated JIRA field if possible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, ok if I create a new custom field in JIRA for flickers, called "Date 
>>>>> of last failure for flicker”?
>>>> 
>>>> [snip]
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t see how it’ll help since it’ll never be up to date, and the old 
>>>> value will remain making us think it’s not been flickering for a long time.
>>> 
>>> In my mind the idea is not so much to use this field as a criteria to
>>> close an issue but as a criteria to not close it.
>> 
>> ok, as long as we don’t use it for closing, I’m fine :)
>> 
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Thomas Mortagne
>> 
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> Thomas Mortagne

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