On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 11:08 PM, Kamesh Sampath <[email protected]> wrote:
> +1 James - I never installed VB on my Mac, I did not face any issue with > xhyve personally unless some kits or programs corrupts my xhyve config. > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 3:10 AM Burr Sutter <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Hardy Ferentschik <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> > Well the cool kids like James Strachan and Kamesh Sampath are telling me >> > that xhyve is super awesome and I would be better looking, thinner and >> 10 >> > years younger if I just tried it :-) >> >> LOL. I wonder why it is supposedly cool. It is known to misbehave and it >> does >> not even have a management console, leaving me sometimes wildly guessing >> on >> what's going on. At least VirtualBox and Hyper-V offer me some way to >> inspect/manage virtual machines. >> >> Why do I ever need a manager kind of ui ?? Its all simple scripts that > gets it going.. there is script generator called xhyve-maanger you can use > it as well. the handling of IP's is damn clean with xhyve, I personally > hate the mandatory NAT ip concept of VB which kills and makes nearly > impossible to setup like 3 nodes OSO/OCP, it might require lot of tweaks to > make it wolk but I don't have patience. > >From an pure end-user perspective, they won't be setting up 3 nodes on their laptop. They will be lucky to get a single node to work :-) And there is one big win with the manager UI - you can actually SEE it running. In demos, I have used that UI to make the point "I have a whole cloud architecture running in 6GB of RAM, see it right here". Plus, VB is available on Windows and Mac, the majority of end-users should be Windows based if we do our jobs right (80% of the developer market still runs Windows). So, teaching people with VB is more "portable" across operating systems. In any case, I am on VB now, I will see if it is more stable than xyhve. The sleep/wake thing is HUGE for me as I often move from demo to demo by closing the lid on the laptop. > >> I've heard xhyve is performs better. Personally I have not tests this nor >> seen any numbers. Given that I prefer a more stable environment over one >> which might or might not perform a bit better, I stick to VirtualBox for >> now. >> >> > I do not even know what files to go delete...but I do see it >> misbehaving. >> >> That might help in some cases - https://minishift.io/docs/ >> troubleshooting.html#xhyve-driver >> >> > CDK 2.2+ uses more CPU than before - I stuck with CDK 2.1 until Jan 2017 >> > for demos :-) >> >> I would love to know why, but trying to find the problem with CDK 2.2+ >> seems pointless. >> I'd rather see us working out how you can give the same presentation using >> Minishift with a decent performance. >> >> If we could get you to use Minishift and you tell us that it performs >> ways worse >> than CDK 2.1, we will for sure look into it. >> >> >> switching to virtualbox... :-) >> >> >> >> --Hardy >> >> >> -- > -- > Kamesh Sampath > Senior Consultant, Middleware > > Red Hat India Pvt., Ltd > > http://developers.redhat.com/ >
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