Matthieu I am always enthusiastic :-) And of course I will participate ...
On 10 October 2014 13:18, Matthieu Pinard (UiO) <[email protected]> wrote: > *Jason*, > yeah, I'm reading through the FAQ etc and I'll suggest a phasing to make > our best to reach each of the stages. > > Here is the rough plan: Once the mailing list info@ is informed I will > publish on FB. Then I suggest that you or webLars (we need someone with > enough legitimacy) will announce that on our mailing lists. Then we need to > monitor and encourage ;). > > *Bob*, > I love your enthusiasm :P. I will not try too hard to convince you and > hope that you will join the effort ;). Just a couple of things: > - yes mailing lists will still be part of the our community support tools > - on the bright side, this forum, if we succeed to make it a true and > sustainable DHIS2 Expert Q&A site will have a great and positive impact on > knowledge sharing among the community member (beautiful). > > Cheers, > Matthieu > > > Matthieu Pinard > DHIS 2 Academy & Community Coordinator | University of Oslo > > On 10 October 2014 13:54, Bob Jolliffe <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have something of an aversion to forums for all things, but I can see >> they might have their place. Many of the questions raised on the users >> list (some of which filter into the developers list) as well as the even >> more common private mail requests might well lend itself to this sort of >> format. Whether we have sufficient traffic to drive some of these social >> engineering engines in a meaningful way or not I am not sure, but perhaps >> no harm in trying. One of the potential issues with forums is how to get >> back off again (with the data) if we decide it wasn't such a good idea at >> all. Perhaps this should also be a factor to consider when selecting a >> forum platform. >> >> Having said that, there is still a place for mailing lists for discussion >> (rather than Q&A). For example, the sysadmin list suggested by Steven, and >> which seems to have attracted some interest, I think would work better in a >> list format, at least at formative stage. Over time there will be nuggets >> mined from the list which can form the basis of a more dynamic faq/forum >> type thing. >> >> As a minor aside, there is perhaps an interesting gender perspective to >> this (and I believe possibly also age). In some research that was done >> some years back (to which I have no reference but I remember well!) the >> problem of women's participation in free/open source projects was >> examined. The level of women's participation was known then (and probably >> still is) to be substantially less in FOSS than in the industry at large. >> Interestingly, one of the findings was that women apparently had a greater >> preference to use web forums than email lists. Moreso than men. So >> there's another dimension for mobilars to explore in his discourse analysis >> :-) >> >> Bob >> >> On 10 October 2014 12:36, Jason Pickering <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Also, be sure to communicate to everyone that they need to "upvote" the >>> questions, after they have been created. Each person gets 5 upvotes it >>> seems, perhaps depending on reputation or something similar. >>> >>> See here for some more metrics on another topic >>> >>> http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/55053/data-science >>> >>> Not so sure we could generate 5 questions per day? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jason >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Jason Pickering < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Matthieu, >>>> Sounds good to me. The process to get it setup seems rather involved >>>> but given the supposed number of people out there , we should have little >>>> problem gathering enough supoort. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Jason >>>> On Oct 10, 2014 6:59 AM, "Matthieu Pinard (UiO)" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi guys, >>>>> >>>>> after discussing with web Lars and with the enlightenment of Mark we >>>>> came up with the following consensus after going back to the initial needs >>>>> to be addressed in this thread: >>>>> >>>>> *How to make it easier for the users, developers and implementers to >>>>> look for an answer for a given question?* >>>>> >>>>> For that matter *Stackexchange* seems to be a very good option. >>>>> Paraphrasing Ubuntu we can say that Stackexchange should become the >>>>> site for DHIS2 users, implementers and developers can collaboratively edit >>>>> question and answer them. >>>>> "Instead of posting a mailing list, this site would work by you >>>>> repeatedly editing your question with what you've learned about your >>>>> problem, and then users can rate the quality of the questions and answers >>>>> by voting" (Source: >>>>> http://community.ubuntu.com/help-information/finding-help/support/). >>>>> >>>>> *Discourse* serves another purpose, which will be very useful for the >>>>> DHIS2 Community as well: a place where to discuss about the latest news of >>>>> DHIS2, discuss ideas etc. We will put that in place later on. >>>>> >>>>> So in a step-by-step approach, let's start with *Stackexchange* to >>>>> serve the most urgent need. Once the community has adopted it we can >>>>> continue providing new tools, namely *Discourse*, for our community >>>>> to grow and engage (and vice versa). >>>>> >>>>> So let's back Jason's initiative and *start posting* on >>>>> http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/77757/dhis2/ >>>>> >>>>> *NEXT STEP:* Diffuse this initiative to the info mailing list >>>>> explaining the goals and steps to make this initiative a success. >>>>> If you agree, Jason, web Lars and me could be assigned to this task. >>>>> >>>>> *Question: Do you agree?* >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Matthieu >>>>> >>>>> PS: Interesting link that we will proudly imitate: >>>>> http://community.ubuntu.com/help-information/finding-help/support/ >>>>> >>>>> Matthieu Pinard >>>>> DHIS 2 Academy & Community Coordinator | University of Oslo >>>>> >>>>> On 10 October 2014 12:25, Halvdan Grelland <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Discourse seems to strike a great balance between power and user >>>>>> friendliness. +1 >>>>>> >>>>>> 2014-10-10 11:20 GMT+02:00 Lars Kristian Roland <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's another one I like: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.invisionpower.com/features/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (not that I don't like the ones Matthieu mentioned) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lars >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2014-10-10 11:07 GMT+02:00 Matthieu Pinard (UiO) < >>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm glad to read that people with technical know-how are on this >>>>>>>> topic as well :). >>>>>>>> Forums being a fundamental building block of our (web) community >>>>>>>> choosing the right tool is key: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The right tool for me means a tool that: >>>>>>>> - is easy to use for non-techies, as the community grows fast >>>>>>>> behind it's early adopters >>>>>>>> - encourages interaction though a good UX >>>>>>>> - helps the community to highlight what are the current hottest >>>>>>>> topics >>>>>>>> - enables "easy" moderation >>>>>>>> - can be used on different screens >>>>>>>> - ...and well... are open source ;) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So far I see two tools: >>>>>>>> - the Ubuntu Discourse http://www.discourse.org/ >>>>>>>> - as we are using the CMS Drupal for our website, we can simply >>>>>>>> activate the forum (limited) or better probably go the the Harmony >>>>>>>> Core <https://www.drupal.org/project/harmony_core> that is part of >>>>>>>> the Commons distribution <https://www.drupal.org/project/commons> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So far from a user perspective I favor Discourse >>>>>>>> <http://www.discourse.org/>. BTW Ubuntu is using it. I can only >>>>>>>> encourage you to give it a try <http://try.discourse.org/> and >>>>>>>> tell me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Matthieu >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Matthieu Pinard >>>>>>>> DHIS 2 Academy & Community Coordinator | University of Oslo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9 October 2014 22:39, Lars Helge Øverland <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does anyone know about any other existing forums that could be >>>>>>>>> potentially more suitable? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If not I'm all for giving this a try. I think going for a forum >>>>>>>>> that is well-known has more legs than starting our own. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lars >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Lars Kristian Roland >>>>>>> Research Fellow, Department of Informatics, University of Oslo >>>>>>> Email: [email protected] - [email protected] >>>>>>> Phone: +47 90733036 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs-core >>>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs-core >>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jason P. Pickering >>> email: [email protected] >>> tel:+46764147049 >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs-core >>> Post to : [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs-core >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >> >
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