Carl this is a good start .... we will obviously only need a fraction of these indicators, but the ones we use should conform to the standards and formats outlined here
Cheers A *****Without deviation from the norm, there can be no progress*** *(Frank Zappa)* *Skype* arthur_heywood_za Tanzania* +255-773669393 OR +255 673150252 On 14 October 2016 at 21:28, Carl Leitner <litlf...@ibiblio.org> wrote: > This may be of interest as you consider HRH indicators: > http://www.capacityplus.org/files/resources/HRH_Indicator_Compendium.pdf > Cheers, > -carl > > > > On Oct 11, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Raphael Pundo <rpu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Arthur, > > Below are some of responses: > > > - do you have a set of indicators using HR data within the DHIS2 ? > > Yes we a set of HR Indicators in the DHIS that are being tracked. > Similarly, there are HR/Service delivery indicators > > - are you able to do bottleneck analysis for UNICEF? > > So far, there had NOT been any request from UNICEF on bottleneck analysis > > - If yes, where do you source the commodity data ? > > Regards, > Raphael > > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Arthur Heywood <arthurheyw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Raphael >> This is a good best practice that you are using a shared facility list >> and then have the two softwares talking to each other ...... >> My next question is about what you (and other countries) are DOING with >> the combined HR and DHIS data once you have got the technology talking?... >> >> - do you have a set of indicators using HR data within the DHIS2 ? >> - are you able to do bottleneck analysis for UNICEF? >> - If yes, where do you source the commodity data ? >> >> Anyone with some implementation cases using HR data ?? >> >> - workload... SA >> - ??? >> >> Regards >> Arthur >> On Tuesday, 11 October 2016, Raphael Pundo <rpu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> All, >>> In case on is interested, Kenya has integrated the iHRIS (Aggregate >>> Data) with DHIS2 using the Master Facility List Code as the Primary Key. I >>> can provide more info >>> >>> Regards >>> Raphael >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Arthur Heywood <arthurheyw...@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Prosper >>>> good to know ..... >>>> BUT >>>> On the other hand, this is a great example of not thinking about USE of >>>> data ..... UNICEF is proposing bottleneck analysis that needs HR data ... >>>> yet there is no automatically genersted quality / usable HR data in one >>>> place ...... >>>> >>>> Sounds like we need to quickly sit down and start to get aggregated >>>> data directly out of IHRIS so we can make bottleneck analysis ..... I hope >>>> this January workshop will provide this opportunity >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> A >>>> >>>> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Prosper BT <ptb3...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Arthur, >>>>> >>>>> For bottleneck analysis using HR indicators/data element, HISP Uganda >>>>> with UNICEF support use aggregate HR DHIS2 dataset, we have not managed to >>>>> integrate iHRS data yet. >>>>> >>>>> <Screen Shot 2016-10-08 at 9.13.42 AM.png> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Arthur Heywood < >>>>> arthurheyw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Carl >>>>>> We do not need detailed data .... what was described as "core HRHIS" >>>>>> is more than good enough .... aggregate data with no details so that we >>>>>> can >>>>>> do workload indicators, Bottleneck analysis etc within DHIS, using >>>>>> imported >>>>>> data >>>>>> I would really like to see this in practice somewhere .... any ideas >>>>>> where this integration is actually working already? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Arthur >>>>>> >>>>>> *****Without deviation from the norm, there can be no progress*** >>>>>> *(Frank Zappa)* >>>>>> *Skype* arthur_heywood_za >>>>>> Tanzania* +255-773669393 OR +255 673150252 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5 October 2016 at 14:56, Carl Leitner <litlf...@ibiblio.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Arthur, >>>>>>> Let me know if you would like to talk about this. If you are keen >>>>>>> on doing everything in DHSI2 (rather than an separate HRIS system, such >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> iHRIS) then there are some existing standard data models for health >>>>>>> worker >>>>>>> information that it would be good to model your data elements after. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you looking more for the aggregate number of HWs or do you need >>>>>>> information on the HWs themselves? >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> -carl >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 4, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedb...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Arthur, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not directly involved with the HRIS work using DHIS, my current >>>>>>> focus is on a fully integrated disease surveillance system. Will find >>>>>>> out >>>>>>> and get back to you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Calle >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4 October 2016 at 15:15, Arthur Heywood <arthurheyw...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Calle >>>>>>>> In Zambia we are also looking to set up what you call a "core" >>>>>>>> Human Resource HMIS ... mainly to do some "Bottleneck analysis" for our >>>>>>>> MDGi districts ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are we able to use a beta version and see what we are able to adapt >>>>>>>> it to our needs (same people being called different professional jobs >>>>>>>> etc) >>>>>>>> and then feed back into the development process ....interesting to >>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>> how far you have progressed? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *****Without deviation from the norm, there can be no progress*** >>>>>>>> *(Frank Zappa)* >>>>>>>> *Skype* arthur_heywood_za >>>>>>>> Tanzania* +255-773669393 OR +255 673150252 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 26 August 2016 at 23:08, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedb...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Laura, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The two main HRIS component designs "within" DHIS2 are the HRHIS >>>>>>>>> in Tanzania and another in Vietnam (John Lewis or Morten will be able >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> tell you more about that one). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> South Africa is currently using a customised Tracker app for >>>>>>>>> managing Community Service and Internships (around 10,000 graduates >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> applying for internship or Community Service posts per annum). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We are also working on a "core" workforce registry tightly >>>>>>>>> integrated with DHIS2. By "core" I mean it will only deal with actual >>>>>>>>> HR >>>>>>>>> resources including position, what they are licensed/authorised to >>>>>>>>> do, and >>>>>>>>> contact details. Things like continuous education, bursaries, >>>>>>>>> payroll, etc >>>>>>>>> are processed/managed by other systems. A major advantage of tight >>>>>>>>> integration will be the ability to use DHIS2 communication and >>>>>>>>> messages + >>>>>>>>> user registration to communicate directly with health workers - in >>>>>>>>> particular since health workers increasingly will be interacting >>>>>>>>> directly >>>>>>>>> with DHIS2 on a daily basis through (daily) capturing of routine data, >>>>>>>>> disease notifications, various Tracker apps (browser or Android), etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your basic requirements seem very similar: your primary need is to >>>>>>>>> track the workforce as an INPUT RESOURCE to health service delivery, >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> not to track salaries and CVs and health insurance and employment >>>>>>>>> history >>>>>>>>> and a bunch of other "personal" things. So you need to know WHO they >>>>>>>>> are, >>>>>>>>> where they actually work and with what (in what position), what they >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> able to do (mostly this relates to formal/legal practice licensing >>>>>>>>> etc, but >>>>>>>>> it could be expanded to include specialist knowledge about certain >>>>>>>>> diseases >>>>>>>>> etc), and how to contact them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Calle >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 26 August 2016 at 21:56, gerald thomas <gerald17...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I had use ihris and it is good. If you want help with it I am >>>>>>>>>> willing to help. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2016 6:46 PM, "Laura E. Lincks" < >>>>>>>>>> laura.lin...@icap.columbia.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We are looking for a simple Human Resources tool to integrate >>>>>>>>>>> with a DHIS aggregate database. Little is known of the needs of the >>>>>>>>>>> HRIS, >>>>>>>>>>> but for now it needs to track personnel details and groups of >>>>>>>>>>> personnel >>>>>>>>>>> will need to be associated with various programs in a separate DHIS >>>>>>>>>>> aggregate database. An Open Source HRIS is preferable. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In searching for tools I have come across the following: >>>>>>>>>>> HRHIS <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HRHIS>in >>>>>>>>>>> Tanzania developed by the HISP-TZ/University of Dar es Salaam >>>>>>>>>>> iHRIS <http://www.ihris.org/> developed by global Capacity >>>>>>>>>>> Project. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of or experience >>>>>>>>>>> with these packages or if there were other applications that could >>>>>>>>>>> be of >>>>>>>>>>> use to us? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance to anyone with leads or information. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Laura E. 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