This may be of interest as you consider HRH indicators:
        
http://www.capacityplus.org/files/resources/HRH_Indicator_Compendium.pdf 
<http://www.capacityplus.org/files/resources/HRH_Indicator_Compendium.pdf>
Cheers,
-carl



> On Oct 11, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Raphael Pundo <rpu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear Arthur,
> 
> Below are some of responses:
> 
> do you have a set of indicators using HR data within the DHIS2 ? 
> Yes we a set of HR Indicators in the DHIS that are being tracked. Similarly, 
> there are HR/Service delivery indicators
> are you able to do bottleneck analysis for UNICEF? 
> So far, there had NOT been any request from UNICEF on bottleneck analysis
> If yes, where do you source the commodity data ?
> Regards,
> Raphael
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Arthur Heywood <arthurheyw...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:arthurheyw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Raphael 
> This is a good best practice that you are using a shared facility list and 
> then have the two softwares talking to each other ...... 
> My next question is about what you (and other countries) are DOING with the 
> combined HR and DHIS data once you have got the technology talking?... 
> do you have a set of indicators using HR data within the DHIS2 ? 
> are you able to do bottleneck analysis for UNICEF? 
> If yes, where do you source the commodity data ?
> Anyone with some implementation cases using HR data ??
> workload... SA 
> ??? 
> Regards 
> Arthur
> On Tuesday, 11 October 2016, Raphael Pundo <rpu...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:rpu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> All,
> In case on is interested, Kenya has integrated the iHRIS (Aggregate Data) 
> with DHIS2 using  the Master Facility List Code as the Primary Key. I can 
> provide more info 
> 
> Regards
> Raphael
> 
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Arthur Heywood <arthurheyw...@gmail.com <>> 
> wrote:
> Prosper 
> good to know ..... 
> BUT 
> On the other hand, this is a great example of not thinking about USE of data 
> ..... UNICEF is  proposing bottleneck analysis that needs HR data ... yet 
> there is no  automatically  genersted quality / usable HR data in one place 
> ...... 
> 
> Sounds like we need to quickly sit down and start to get aggregated data 
> directly out of IHRIS so we can make bottleneck analysis ..... I hope this 
> January workshop will provide this opportunity 
> 
> Cheers
> A
> 
> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Prosper BT <ptb3...@gmail.com <>> wrote:
> Hi Arthur,
> 
> For bottleneck analysis using HR indicators/data element, HISP Uganda with 
> UNICEF support use aggregate HR DHIS2 dataset, we have not managed to 
> integrate iHRS data yet.
> 
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> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Arthur Heywood <arthurheyw...@gmail.com <>> 
> wrote:
> Carl 
> We do not need detailed data .... what was described as "core HRHIS" is more 
> than good enough .... aggregate data with no details so that we can do 
> workload indicators, Bottleneck analysis etc within DHIS, using imported data 
> I would really like to see this in practice somewhere .... any ideas where 
> this integration is actually working already?
> 
> Regards
> Arthur
> 
> **Without deviation from the norm, there can be no progress* *(Frank Zappa)
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> On 5 October 2016 at 14:56, Carl Leitner <litlf...@ibiblio.org <>> wrote:
> Hey Arthur,
> Let me know if you would like to talk about this.  If you are keen on doing 
> everything in DHSI2 (rather than an separate HRIS system, such as iHRIS) then 
> there are some existing standard data models for health worker information 
> that it would be good to model your data elements after.   
> 
> Are you looking more for the aggregate number of HWs or do you need 
> information on the HWs themselves?
> Cheers,
> -carl
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedb...@gmail.com <>> wrote:
>> 
>> Arthur,
>> 
>> I'm not directly involved with the HRIS work using DHIS, my current focus is 
>> on a fully integrated disease surveillance system. Will find out and get 
>> back to you.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Calle
>> 
>> On 4 October 2016 at 15:15, Arthur Heywood <arthurheyw...@gmail.com <>> 
>> wrote:
>> Calle 
>> In Zambia we are also looking to set up what you call a "core" Human 
>> Resource HMIS ... mainly to do some "Bottleneck analysis" for our MDGi 
>> districts ...
>> 
>> Are we able to use a beta version and see what we are able to adapt it to 
>> our needs (same people being called different professional jobs  etc)  and 
>> then feed back into the development process ....interesting to know how far 
>> you have progressed?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> a
>> 
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>> 
>> On 26 August 2016 at 23:08, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedb...@gmail.com <>> wrote:
>> Laura,
>> 
>> The two main HRIS component designs "within" DHIS2 are the HRHIS in Tanzania 
>> and another in Vietnam (John Lewis or Morten will be able to tell you more 
>> about that one). 
>> 
>> South Africa is currently using a customised Tracker app for managing 
>> Community Service and Internships (around 10,000 graduates are applying for 
>> internship or Community Service posts per annum). 
>> 
>> We are also working on a "core" workforce registry tightly integrated with 
>> DHIS2. By "core" I mean it will only deal with actual HR resources including 
>> position, what they are licensed/authorised to do, and contact details. 
>> Things like continuous education, bursaries, payroll, etc are 
>> processed/managed by other systems. A major advantage of tight integration 
>> will be the ability to use DHIS2 communication and messages + user 
>> registration to communicate directly with health workers - in particular 
>> since health workers increasingly will be interacting directly with DHIS2 on 
>> a daily basis through (daily) capturing of routine data, disease 
>> notifications, various Tracker apps (browser or Android), etc.
>> 
>> Your basic requirements seem very similar: your primary need is to track the 
>> workforce as an INPUT RESOURCE to health service delivery, and not to track 
>> salaries and CVs and health insurance and employment history and a bunch of 
>> other "personal" things. So you need to know WHO they are, where they 
>> actually work and with what (in what position), what they are able to do 
>> (mostly this relates to formal/legal practice licensing etc, but it could be 
>> expanded to include specialist knowledge about certain diseases etc), and 
>> how to contact them.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Calle
>> 
>> On 26 August 2016 at 21:56, gerald thomas <gerald17...@gmail.com <>> wrote:
>> I had use ihris and it is good. If you want help with it I am willing to 
>> help.
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 26, 2016 6:46 PM, "Laura E. Lincks" <laura.lin...@icap.columbia.edu 
>> <>> wrote:
>> We are looking for a simple Human Resources tool to integrate with a DHIS 
>> aggregate database. Little is known of the needs of the HRIS, but for now it 
>> needs to track personnel details and groups of personnel will need to be 
>> associated with various programs in a separate DHIS aggregate database. An 
>> Open Source HRIS is preferable.
>> 
>> In searching for tools I have come across the following:
>> HRHIS  <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HRHIS>in Tanzania developed by the 
>> HISP-TZ/University of Dar es Salaam
>> iHRIS <http://www.ihris.org/> developed by global Capacity Project.‚Äč
>> 
>> I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of or experience with these 
>> packages or if there were other applications that could be of use to us?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance to anyone with leads or information.
>> 
>> Laura E. Lincks <>
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