Carl again a good list of HR categories and good for a HR database to follow As far as I know, the main emphasis of the Bottleneck analysis is on professional staff .... so these will be the main ones we will need to import into DHIS2
Regards Arthur *****Without deviation from the norm, there can be no progress*** *(Frank Zappa)* *Skype* arthur_heywood_za Tanzania* +255-773669393 OR +255 673150252 On 14 October 2016 at 21:33, Carl Leitner <litlf...@ibiblio.org> wrote: > I think Wnajala is referring to the following: > http://www.who.int/hrh/statistics/Health_workers_classification.pdf > it is a subset of the ISCO-08 codes. > > There is some more discussion on this here: > http://www.capacityplus.org/files/resources/establishing- > using-data-standards-health-workforce-information-systems.pdf > > > Note that these classifications are automatically in iHRIS and the MOH can > map their job/cadre classifications to these quite easily. > > Cheers, > -carl > > > > On Oct 11, 2016, at 2:27 AM, Arthur Heywood <arthurheyw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Wanjala .... > VERY good start for a standard list > Can you share it with us please > Regards > Arthur > > On Tuesday, 11 October 2016, wanjala pepela <wanjal...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> iHRIS always have detailed information and personalized information that >> are confidential but what is required for exchange is aggregated >> information; # are ideal, May be countries need to share common cadres of >> staff available or my recommendation is to use the WHO- recommended 16 main >> cadres to collect which will be useful for analysis; >> >> PEPELA WANJALA >> *MINISTRY OF HEALTH HEADQUARTERS* >> *HEALTH SECTOR MONITORING & EVALUATION - AMRO- KENYA CHAIRMAN* >> *AFYA HOUSE, LG 37* >> *P.O BOX 30016, NAIROBI, KENYA* >> *TEL: +254 (020) 2717077 EXT 45097 >> <%2B254%20%28020%29%202717077%20EXT%2045097>* >> *CELL: +254 (0) 722375633 <%2B254%20%280%29%20722375633> * >> *EMAIL: wanjal...@yahoo.com, wanjal...@gmail.com* >> * h...@health.go.ke, *meunit...@gmail.com >> *"HealthInformation Management - Making a World of Difference”* >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Arthur Heywood <arthurheyw...@gmail.com> >> *To:* Prosper BT <ptb3...@gmail.com> >> *Cc:* dhis2-users <dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net>; Calle Hedberg < >> calle.hedb...@gmail.com>; dhis2-devs <dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:49 AM >> *Subject:* [Dhis2-users] Looking for Human Resource System to integrate >> with DHIS >> >> Prosper >> good to know ..... >> BUT >> On the other hand, this is a great example of not thinking about USE of >> data ..... UNICEF is proposing bottleneck analysis that needs HR data ... >> yet there is no automatically genersted quality / usable HR data in one >> place ...... >> >> Sounds like we need to quickly sit down and start to get aggregated data >> directly out of IHRIS so we can make bottleneck analysis ..... I hope this >> January workshop will provide this opportunity >> >> Cheers >> A >> >> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Prosper BT <ptb3...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Arthur, >> >> For bottleneck analysis using HR indicators/data element, HISP Uganda >> with UNICEF support use aggregate HR DHIS2 dataset, we have not managed to >> integrate iHRS data yet. >> >> <Screen Shot 2016-10-08 at 9.13.42 AM.png> >> >> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Arthur Heywood <arthurheyw...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Carl >> We do not need detailed data .... what was described as "core HRHIS" is >> more than good enough .... aggregate data with no details so that we can do >> workload indicators, Bottleneck analysis etc within DHIS, using imported >> data >> I would really like to see this in practice somewhere .... any ideas >> where this integration is actually working already? >> >> Regards >> Arthur >> >> *****Without deviation from the norm, there can be no progress*** >> *(Frank Zappa)* >> *Skype* arthur_heywood_za >> Tanzania* +255-773669393 OR +255 673150252 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 5 October 2016 at 14:56, Carl Leitner <litlf...@ibiblio.org> wrote: >> >> Hey Arthur, >> Let me know if you would like to talk about this. If you are keen on >> doing everything in DHSI2 (rather than an separate HRIS system, such as >> iHRIS) then there are some existing standard data models for health worker >> information that it would be good to model your data elements after. >> >> Are you looking more for the aggregate number of HWs or do you need >> information on the HWs themselves? >> Cheers, >> -carl >> >> >> >> On Oct 4, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedb...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Arthur, >> >> I'm not directly involved with the HRIS work using DHIS, my current focus >> is on a fully integrated disease surveillance system. Will find out and get >> back to you. >> >> Regards >> Calle >> >> On 4 October 2016 at 15:15, Arthur Heywood <arthurheyw...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Calle >> In Zambia we are also looking to set up what you call a "core" Human >> Resource HMIS ... mainly to do some "Bottleneck analysis" for our MDGi >> districts ... >> >> Are we able to use a beta version and see what we are able to adapt it to >> our needs (same people being called different professional jobs etc) and >> then feed back into the development process ....interesting to know how far >> you have progressed? >> >> Cheers >> a >> >> *****Without deviation from the norm, there can be no progress*** >> *(Frank Zappa)* >> *Skype* arthur_heywood_za >> Tanzania* +255-773669393 OR +255 673150252 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 26 August 2016 at 23:08, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedb...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Laura, >> >> The two main HRIS component designs "within" DHIS2 are the HRHIS in >> Tanzania and another in Vietnam (John Lewis or Morten will be able to tell >> you more about that one). >> >> South Africa is currently using a customised Tracker app for managing >> Community Service and Internships (around 10,000 graduates are applying for >> internship or Community Service posts per annum). >> >> We are also working on a "core" workforce registry tightly integrated >> with DHIS2. By "core" I mean it will only deal with actual HR resources >> including position, what they are licensed/authorised to do, and contact >> details. Things like continuous education, bursaries, payroll, etc are >> processed/managed by other systems. A major advantage of tight integration >> will be the ability to use DHIS2 communication and messages + user >> registration to communicate directly with health workers - in particular >> since health workers increasingly will be interacting directly with DHIS2 >> on a daily basis through (daily) capturing of routine data, disease >> notifications, various Tracker apps (browser or Android), etc. >> >> Your basic requirements seem very similar: your primary need is to track >> the workforce as an INPUT RESOURCE to health service delivery, and not to >> track salaries and CVs and health insurance and employment history and a >> bunch of other "personal" things. So you need to know WHO they are, where >> they actually work and with what (in what position), what they are able to >> do (mostly this relates to formal/legal practice licensing etc, but it >> could be expanded to include specialist knowledge about certain diseases >> etc), and how to contact them. >> >> Regards >> Calle >> >> On 26 August 2016 at 21:56, gerald thomas <gerald17...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I had use ihris and it is good. If you want help with it I am willing to >> help. >> >> On Aug 26, 2016 6:46 PM, "Laura E. Lincks" <laura.lin...@icap.columbia.ed >> u> wrote: >> >> We are looking for a simple Human Resources tool to integrate with a DHIS >> aggregate database. Little is known of the needs of the HRIS, but for now >> it needs to track personnel details and groups of personnel will need to be >> associated with various programs in a separate DHIS aggregate database. An >> Open Source HRIS is preferable. >> >> In searching for tools I have come across the following: >> HRHIS <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HRHIS>in Tanzania developed by the >> HISP-TZ/University of Dar es Salaam >> iHRIS <http://www.ihris.org/> developed by global Capacity Project. >> >> I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of or experience with these >> packages or if there were other applications that could be of use to us? >> >> Thanks in advance to anyone with leads or information. >> >> *Laura E. 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