No matter how we put it/them, we are still talking about information 
management, or  information divide etc. 

Technology is a tool. Giving someone a tool don't mean their knowledge, needs 
and wants would improve if there is no support system to catch them. Take the 
case of One-Laptop-per-child. Would have been more successful if more thought 
were given how to deploy and manage both technological and social network 
first, rather than the lap-top. 

I was taken aback and alarmed when the question of what has 
human-social-networking to do with digital divide was raised. To me it is 
rather scary.  One would assume the medical profession would be without work if 
there is no human being (or animals) to deal with, and therefore there would 
not be any problem with digital divide or divide of any kind in their sphere of 
influence.  

It is rather sad to think that many of us put so much importance on technology. 
Perhaps that is the root of the problem of digital divide. We take little time, 
little importance, little understanding, little care etc. etc. to first 
understand the behaviour of human beings. Technology is the most simple part to 
deal with. 

Cindy



--- On Mon, 11/8/08, tom abeles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: tom abeles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [DDN] The Digital Divide and Human Health-knowledge
To: "The Digital Divide Network discussion group" 
<[email protected]>
Date: Monday, 11 August, 2008, 4:16 PM

Dave Roop's response is interesting and one that seems very important

One of the critical pieces that is coming to light with the growing use of the
internet is the term, social networking both in brick and click space
industry with its intranets has found much that might be helpful here-
primarily how information moves. Information "wants to be free to
move" but it isn't free to move no matter
how connected people are. There are networks and overlapping and interconnected
networks with gatekeepers and filters. Much of this has to do with the social
aspects. Not everyone chooses to
be linked to everyone and linked doesn't mean free flow- not necessarily
malicious in intent.

The development community has an unstated assumption, especially in the idea of
closing the digital divide that such issue do not exist, are minor or will
eventually disappear with time and connectivity.
I am not sure the difference between developed and developing countries or the
subject matter of the network neutralizes the issues

thoughts?

tom

tom abeles

> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:16:59 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [DDN] The Digital Divide and Human Health
> 
> Dear All,
> Let me share some my first hand experience in the area of “digital
divide” / telemedicine/ Health management” etc. Let us take two different
scenarios to make it global.
>  
> Scenario I - Underdeveloped countries
>  
> 
> Genesis of all problems is “economic divide” and not the “technology
or digital divide”. I have seen how poverty dictates “do’s &
don’ts’”. 
> Second important factor is “knowledge divide” as in some cases (of
course rare) I have seen even with affluent suffers due to lack of knowledge.
> If we tailor use of any technology for eradication of poverty and
knowledge divide in any community, health index will automatically improve as
by-product. People with no mean for square meal have their health issues as the
last priority.
>  
> Scenario II – Developed countries
>  
> Knowledge divide exists even in the countries like United States and
attempts to narrow such divides help the society at large. But unfortunately in
many cases there are complications as – “information can not be converted
into knowledge” without proper background to understand that information.
First word is creating a new category of people who belong to this category and
needless to say that – this will have negative impact on the overall social
management fabric.
>  
> The learning derived are-
> 1.       Manage digital divide for improving economic standing first
followed by knowledge management. Jumping to health management, by passing these
two crucial factors would not help in any society (first / or third world).
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> R K Dave, SMIEEE
> Strategist & Expert (ICT & Disaster Management)
> www.AdvisorICT.com
>  
> 
> --- On Sun, 8/10/08, David Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> From: David Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [DDN] The Digital Divide and Human Health
> To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 5:17 PM
> 
> This is an interesting discussion, though it may be an easier one to have
as a
> set of narrower questions on a web discussion.
> 
> I agree that the use of data, both qualitative and quantitative, would be
> ultimately vital to determining impact and perhaps not enough as been
done. Just
> as important is defining the scope of questions. I see a number of arenas
for
> this. "Human health" is also broad. I leave that to health
experts,
> but perhaps this encompasses individual physical and mental health, and
then
> public health. 
> 
> I also see some distinction between getting health info, getting info
about
> where to get health assistance, participatory health support activities,
and use
> of digital media to support creating health marketing materials, and use
of
> telecenters and digital media as a health prevention (and fitness and
public
> safety) activity. 
> 
> Here are some of the areas of research I'd see on this topic from my
> experience in community technology. 
> 1) Does learning about health information online improve health?
> 2) Does participating in a health or disease-related support group improve
> physical and/or mental health?
> 3) Does retrieving health info likely lead to its use and to a subsequent
> impact?  How is this different or complementary to information provided by
> another source (friend, care provider, brochure)?
> 4) How many community technology/ telecentres are connecting residents
with
> health and fitness information? (e.g. I know of a group of seniors that
use the
> computer lab to retrieve walking maps for their exercise.) 
> 5) If someone's knowledge of using a computer and the Internet
increases,
> does it increase their sense of self-sufficiency and control, and thereby
extend
> their life and quality of life? (There's an interesting potential
> correlation to some research done in England finding that if seniors have
a
> greater sense of their choices and control, it results in extending their
> lives.)
> 6) Does a social network, with an e-component (email, text, web), enhance
a
> consumer's access to health care provider and health information (that
is
> accurate)?
> 7) Does the production of content (e.g. writing about nutrition, your
health,
> mapping neighborhood air quality) lead to increased health awareness and
health?
> 8) What is the public safety impact of youth media programs?
> 
> This is all consumer sided vs provider sided (health professionals getting
> access to exchanging data and best practices) and doesn't include
potential
> impact from health monitoring (remote testing/transmission on diabetes,
blood
> pressure, etc).
> 
> And of course all this takes money for research. I'd definitely like
to see
> more and how it gets indexed in the health and Internet/dig divide/ social
> health journals.   
> 
> - David
> 
>  *******************************************
> David Keyes
> Director of Community Technology Programs
> City of Seattle Department of Information Technology
> PO Box 94709
> Seattle, WA 98124-4709   USA
> 
> (206) 386-9759
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Fax (206) 684-0911
> http://seattle.gov/tech/
> Street address: 700 Fifth Ave. Suite 2700
> >>> "Judith Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
08/10/08
> 7:04 AM >>>
> Greetings,
> 
> The question of health care and the digital divide issues that are being
> raised about "knowing" and "data" are central to
> discussions that are
> happening in medical education and diagnosis communities.  A recent book
> 
>
<http://www.amazon.com/Interprofessional-Family-Discourses-Knowledge-Processes/dp/1572734027/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218309980&sr=1-3>
> Interprofessional and Family Discourses: Voices, Knowledge and
> Practice
> (Language and Social Processes)
>
<http://www.amazon.com/Interprofessional-Family-Discourses-Knowledge-Processes/dp/1572734027/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218309980&sr=1-3>by
> Marleen Iannucci McClelland and Roberta G. Sands, Hampton Press.
> 
> raises questions about how different disciplines within healthcare
diagnose
> patients and how voices are missing.  This volume raises questions about
> dialogues in a face2face and digital world that are central to
understanding
> areas of the digital divide that are often not visible.  They also raise
> questions about how parents are engaged in the dialogues and thus how
> patients are able to access or enter information.  This volume also
proposes
> a biosocial model that might be of interest to those involved in
discussion
> about health care and the digital divide.
> 
> This volume also address questions about what counts as knowing, research
> and health care and how these are constructed through different lenses
used
> by different actors.
> 
> I see the questions that were raised, therefore, as interdependent with
the
> broader concern of this community.
> 
> Judith
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