Hello all and Tom,
 
Have been reading this stuff about future of DDN which essentially needed some 
funding.
 
We which sites do not need funding. :>)
 
Tom you mentioned about China. Just like to ask does anyone has contacts with 
China in the education sector looking for solution for their rural schools.
 
We are looking for contacts with people in the education sectors in developing 
countries like China, India etc. WE specialise in closing the digital divides 
in developing countries without the need for broadband which is slow and 
expensive.  

If members can introduce to us education officers in developing countries, in 
the event of sales, we can contribute some commissions to DDN to run the it.
 
This is just a realistic suggestion. Hoping for free money/contribution is not 
that easy to run DDN. I have gone away from that model to close the digital 
divides.
 
Regards
Aan 
 
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--- On Wed, 12/31/08, tom abeles <tabe...@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: tom abeles <tabe...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DDN] The future of DDN
To: digitaldivide@digitaldivide.net
Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 1:20 AM

hmm, how long between submission and "approval" as in this just
released batch of postings.

I am wondering how useful a network working in the ICT4Dev area really is with
gate keepers. Think China in today's world. Who would fund such an
organization when the internet is pushing for open source/open access and the
number of free blog and similar social networking tools are supported by
volunteers?

I still am interested in seeing the "books" for the proposed
organization and who has their hands on the kill switch of intellectual ideas. 

Funding comes with strings

best

tom

tom abeles
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> From: tabe...@hotmail.com
> To: digitaldivide@digitaldivide.net
> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:56:02 -0600
> Subject: Re: [DDN] The future of DDN
> 
> 
> What I have not seen in this exchange is the cost for the system
including:
> a) the number of "staff", their positions, full or part time and
the over all costs for each area (not individuals), mgmt, tech support, etc
> b) the overhead costs for hardware, software and other maint. issues
> c) other costs. In other words, what does the quick books version of this
operation look like
> d) what is the proposed model going forward- maintain the status quo or
build a new, different and potentially lower cost operation
> 
> My bet is that the current model which was funded by the WB and other
sources is not the lean/mean web versions that so many other networks are using.
> 
> If the above are not put on the table then there is no way to understand
what the next steps should be.
> 
> Concerns over approving postings etc are mis-directions and not the issue
at hand
> 
> dr. tom p abeles, president
> sagacity, inc
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> 
> tabe...@hotmail.com
> 
> > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:38:41 -0400
> > To: digitaldivide@digitaldivide.net
> > From: taran.a.ramper...@gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [DDN] The future of DDN
> > 
> > /me hums Drupal's theme at Tobias as well.
> > 
> > Tobias Eigen wrote:
> > > Thanks Adam - this is all very interesting.
> > >
> > > I think the biggest problem I am seeing is that emails get
stacked up for
> > > approval - this really limits any real discussion that might
take place here
> > > on this list. I'd propose either opening it up or recruiting
some volunteers
> > > to help manage the approval queue on a daily if not more regular
basis.
> > >
> > > The ning idea is a good one, especially since it's a free
(advertising
> > > driven) platform. I believe educators can get advertising-free
spaces.
> > > Another platform well suited for email-empowered online
communities is
> > > golightly, used at http://groups.nten.org
> > >
> > > If you are really concerned about costs for DDN into the future,
then
> > > rolling your own site might not be a great idea.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Tobias
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:07 AM,
<adamcl...@takingitglobal.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >   
> > >> Thanks for the responses to our idea of what to do with DDN
:)
> > >>
> > >> To clear somethings up:
> > >>
> > >> -Tobias asked if the donation for membership is voluntary or
not. We have
> > >> no intention of charging people to access DDN. What we do
want to do is
> > >> identify people who are financial supporters of DDN. We
don't have a
> > >> donation system set up yet because we wanted to make sure
that it was a
> > >> good idea first.
> > >>
> > >> -The wiki issue is being looked into. The system should be
able to handle
> > >> your existing DDN login information so you don't have to
create two
> > >> accounts and login to both all the time.
> > >>
> > >> -Taran's idea of GoogleAds is interesting and we'll
have our tech team see
> > >> how easy it is to implement. Which should be very easy. The
hard part will
> > >> be finding a space for them as we don't want GoogleAds
on the front page
> > >> of DDN has it may make the site look less credible. Any
thoughts on that
> > >> note?
> > >>
> > >> -Many people have suggested moving DDN to a new system. This
is just as
> > >> hard (or even harder) than keeping our current system
running. We've
> > >> though about this at TIG and were moving ahead with our
system because it
> > >> is the easiest for our developers to work on.
> > >>
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