On 12/13/2014 02:59 PM, ZombineDev wrote:
Thanks for the great work!

Is it possible to also include dmd+druntimie+phobos git-head?

It would be helpful to know if your project can be built with the new
version of DMD (when it is officially released) ahead of time. If you
are using some yet-to be deprecated code you can fix the issue much
sooner and when the next version is released the migration cost would be
virtually zero.
Sure, this won't be useful for everybody, but I am sure that for some
larger organizations this will be helpful.
Also this will help test the new compiler and standard library code
better, which should benefit everyone.

There are some interesting points in here, but the implication that more people should test master is wrong, at least I hope so.

1. New releases should be pain-free

   Obviously new releases shouldn't introduce regressions.
   If there are new warnings/deprecations you should be able to live
   with them for a while and fix them when you have time. This is how
   we perceive this and if that doesn't work for you I'd be interested
   to know why.

2. master == unstable

   There are quite some newsgroup posts like "my project doesn't build
   with the latest dmd" or "latests dmd does A". That's not too helpful
   IMO, as it creates additional support overhead (deduplicating
   issues, answering, discussing). Therefor I wouldn't want to
   encourage this even more. If something breaks, go directly to
   bugzilla and file an issue. If you happen to know the cause go to
   github and add a comment on the relevant pull. New dmd and phobos
   code should be well tested and designed before we merge it into
   master. Things like std.experimental are supposed to deal with the
   lack of broad testing feedback during normal development.

3. Beta is for testing

   Alpha and beta releases are the right time to try a new release
   and they will be available on Travis-CI too [1]. During beta
   releases we're actively monitoring the dmd-beta mailing list [2]
   and are fixing any open regressions. This is the time when we're
   most receptive for newly reported issues.

[1]: https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-build/pull/340/files#diff-ac986a81b67f1bd5851c535881c18abeR91
[2]: http://lists.puremagic.com/mailman/listinfo/dmd-beta

Git pulling and rebuilding dmd every time you update your project is not
extremely efficient, but perhaps this can be done once a week. Or the
autotester can upload the first binaries that pass all tests to some ftp
in the beginning of every week.

I was thinking about releasing nightlies every now and then. We can't really reduce the release cycle without massively changing our workflow. That doesn't seem worthwhile for the few core contributors that we are.

I am not very familiar with Travis or the dmd release process, so
correct me if I am wrong.

Done :)

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