On Friday, 13 July 2018 at 13:15:07 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote:
At the moment, developing in Rust can be quite painful because
of too much focus on its borrow checker, as the reference
counting system is just a side feature, which is not deeply
integrated into the language.
And Go suffers from its own problems, mainly related to the
excessive limitation of the language features (no genericity,
"fake" class inheritance, etc).
Those are are big items but its the small stuff that more
frustrates. Just deal with some database result fetching. In
dynamic languages that is maybe a 5 line of code, Go makes it 4
or 5 times as big. Its just a bit too unwieldy.
De facto they are already making room for another language to
ultimately fill those gaps...
This may be Crystal, D or another yet to come language...
Crystal maybe ... but the link Ruby / RoR does create a bit of a
artificial barrier. I do notice that Ruby ( not Rails ) is
getting more recognition these days.
D ... i am being honest but i do not see it. D really has a lot
going for it but frankly, the missing default HTTP server is just
silly these days. And no, again, Vibe.D is not a good
alternative when it breaks on just about every D release or does
not perform multi thread correctly ( look up the documentation.
Out of date and full of unused information ).
What i personally miss is a compile language that simply gets the
job done.
Take PHP for instance, horrible issues ( a lot less as they
cleaned up a lot over the years ) but its most redeeming feature
is it gets the job done. It does not force you into a specific
pattern, its fast go get visual results, its backward
compatability is impressive ( hint hint D ), it just works out of
the box with ease.
Javascript ( the newer ES version + Node ) also match this more.
D looks usable at first for people coming from dynamic languages
but they are quickly overwhelmed with the whole C/C++ focus.
Crystal is bridging that gap but its still more or less Ruby. So
it needs to deal with some of the reputation issues.
Where is our Java / C like alternative. Swift? Unfortunately
Apple has no interest outside of its own platform and Linux
support is spotty.
Kotlin/Native? Its moving fast and most people do not realize
this. But a long time from finished.
Zig? Kind of a C alternative.
If there is a language out there that gaps that C/Java/dynamic
fast and easy feel, and offers the ability to compile down with
ease. I have not seen it.
