On 2/10/14, 4:25 PM, "Ola Fosheim Grøstad"
<[email protected]>" wrote:
On Monday, 10 February 2014 at 23:15:35 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
This is a typical problem. Reviewing contributions is hard and
thankless work. I know how we solved it at Facebook for our many
open-sourced projects: we created a team for it, with a manager,
tracking progress, the works. This is _exactly_ the kind of thing that
can't be done in a volunteer community.
Maybe you can make some parts modular after you refactor into D. Then
people can take ownership of modules and social recognition will
encourage more commitment.
I think at this stage we need more people to start with. Someone pointed
out recently we have 77 lifetime contributors to github, as opposed to
e.g. Rust which has 292.
I think D must not define itself in relation to any other language.
I respect that position.
Of course, it does not help if outsiders have been told that D is a
better C++. It kinda sticks. Because people really want that.
I don't think so, at all. Anyone working on D must drop the moniker "D
is a better C++" like a bad habit, no two ways about that. Most of it
does it sets C++ as the benchmark. People who already like C++ would be
like "you wish" and people who hate C++ would be like "better crap is
not what I need anyway".
I am very hard trying to convince myself that D is more like compiled
C#, which lowers my expectations, because that original vision of a
"better C++" is very firmly stuck.
For someone who hasn't been around for a while, maybe. I fail to see C++
or C# mentioned anywhere on our home page.
We want to make D a great language all around, with system-level access
and also convenience features.
But my point was more that you need to communicate a vision that is such
that the people you want to attract don't sit on the fence. I am quite
certain that more skilled C++ programmers would volunteer if they saw a
vision they believed in.
It's there in <h2> at the top of our homepage: "Modern convenience.
Modeling power. Native efficiency."
By the way, this whole "plop a vision page" thing doesn't seem to be
quite popular:
https://www.google.com/search?q=rust%20language#q=vision+site:rust-lang.org&safe=off
https://www.google.com/search?q=vision%20site%3Apython.org
https://www.google.com/search?q=vision%20site%3Aisocpp.org
https://www.google.com/search?q=scala#q=vision+site:scala-lang.org&safe=off
https://www.google.com/search?q=vision%20site%3Agolang.org
Andrei
