On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 at 15:15:59 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 21:58:48 UTC, deadalnix wrote:

D is already in that landscape and should try hard not to sink deeper into the muddy waters.

Funny thing it is that it started exactly as a reaction to those muddy waters.

I believe this is the "Stroustrup curse":

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Much of the relative simplicity of Java is - like for most new languages - partly an illusion and partly a function of its incompleteness. As time passes, Java will grow significantly in size and complexity. It will double or triple in size and grow implementation-dependent extensions or libraries. That is the way every commercially successful language has developed. Just look at any language you consider successful on a large scale. I know of no exceptions, and there are good reasons for this phenomenon. [I wrote this before 2000; now (2012), the language part of the Java 7 specification is slightly longer in terms of number of pages than the ISO C++11 language specification.]
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