On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 15:18:57 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
This is probably the most disgusting, selfish and deluded posts i've read on this entire newsgroup.

I am pretty sure I have written worse.

If D is supposed to supplant C/C++, then the needs of those users *must* be met, especially without deriding those very users. Just because you work on the D ecosystem does not give you 'carte blanche' to tell a user to stop making enquiries into features that are promised by D.

The user is the entire goal of D! Forgetting this relegates D to obscurity and makes you look like an ass.

This is widely advertised statement I can't agree with. For me goal is having working language that works. Getting users is indirect way to achieve that by attracting more contributions but user just by itself has not value to _me_. It is obviously important for Andrei and Walter as D is their project. There are some other contributors which keep being productive despite no obvious personal gain. I admire and respect them but I am not them.

And I really hate the culture of hiding own interests just to look all nice.

No, not really. Open source is about people working to fulfill their own personal goals and not minding to share resulting code if it doesn't mean much added effort. Only few care about things like long-term success and only tiny minority will be interested in working on ecosystem they don't use.

With that paragraph, you've just dumped on Walter, Andrei's and all other open source contributor's efforts for the past n years!

How so? Walter and Andrei are not open-source contributors - D is _their_ project. There are some incredible open-source contributors like Kenji, Martin, Vladimir, Daniel - guys with incredible productivity that don't mind help anyone. This is exactly the (awesome) minority. But most people just work on projects they are interested in and occasionally contribute stuff back.

Do you disagree that this is the model of D developer community? Or am I the ass because I write it down here instead of acting all idealistic and inspirational?

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