On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 23:41:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
Yah, I must chime in here. I'm a bit surprised by Mike's
conclusion that he's been rejected.
Forgive me if that's the conclusion I conveyed. I said my ideas
were unpopular, and if one follows the links to the threads I
posted, you'll see that indeed they are. They were indeed
criticized, but it is the lack of interest that is most
discouraging. I don't necessarily feel rejected. Rather, I see
that D is heavily biased towards a few specific domains, and I
think D has more potential than that. So, I suggest the stewards
of the language guard against any trend to make the language too
domain- or platform-specific.
I also said at the start of this thread that I'm ok with
abandoning my ideas, as long as the core team expresses interest
and a way forward that I can get on board with.
I assume Mike is Michael V. Franklin who gave the talk at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5m0m_ZG9e8.
Actually, I was so excited about D, I changed my name to Michael
D. Franklin: https://archive.org/details/dconf2014-day02-talk07
There's a lot of stuff that Walter and I would like to see
happen that's not in the document. The document itself includes
things that he and I actually believe we can work on and make
happen. (In the case of vibe.d, we made sure we asked Sönke.)
It doesn't include awesome things that others can do without
our help - and it shouldn't.
The vision document also doesn't include things we believe are
implied. For example "D should remain an efficient,
systems-level language." To the extent D prevents systems-level
work from getting done, we should fix it to allow that to
happen. Again, I'm glad folks like Walter and Iain have an eye
on that.
This is exactly the information I hoped to elicit in this thread.
If there is interest in hardware programming, let's discuss a
way forward. If the core team already has its hands full, that's
fine too. Perhaps, it's best for me to reallocate myself
elsewhere and revisit D at a later time. But I don't want to
remain on the fence.
Mike
