On Tuesday, 12 May 2015 at 18:35:10 UTC, FujiBar wrote:
For those keeping track of every mentioning of D in the media
(Hi Andrei!):
The following article about Rust made it to the front page of
HN and /r/programming recently: http://www.viva64.com/en/b/0324/
Here is the part mentioning D:
"Well, as you probably remember, it is far not the first
attempt to create a "better" C/C++. Take the D language, for
instance. It was released in 2001 and is a good language
indeed. But there are no vacancies, no decent development
tools, no remarkable success stories associated with it. The
OpenMW project was initially started in D but then the authors
suddenly decided to completely rewrite it into C++. As they
confessed, they'd been receiving piles of emails where people
would say, "you are making a cool project and we'd like to
contribute to it, but we don't know and neither feel like
studying this silly D". Wikipedia tells us that there were a
lot of other attempts besides D to kill C++ - for example Vala,
Cyclone, Limbo, BitC. How many of you have even heard of these
languages?"
Walter would probably violently disagree with the "no decent
development tools" assessment. But I got to say that people
used to Visual Studio and XCode (like myself) not being
impressed by D's 1980s-style bare basic command line tools is
not surprising.
I think an IDE, one could call it "DCode" (great name, isn't
it?), which integrates all the available tools and provides a
modern graphical interface to them would do wonders.
I used to be a command line / text editor / handwritten builds
scripts guy myself. But then I was forced to use Visual Studio
for a project and now I do not want to go back.
'As they confessed, they'd been receiving
piles of emails where people would say, "you are making a cool
project and we'd like to contribute to it, but we don't know and
neither feel like studying this silly D".'
Yet another reason not to use D. This is a new one to me, though.
The common mantra is "D needs a cool project", and then when
someone has a cool project, they say "we won't contribute, unless
you use a language we all know". How thick is that?!
It's not even worth discussing this attitude. If it was up to
people who never want any change, don't want to explore things,
don't want to learn anything new, even if they can see its merits
right in front of them, we wouldn't have fire for cooking and
heating, wheels, soap, penicillin, electricity, fridges, punch
cards - not even C++.
