On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:20:37 +0000, aberba wrote: > That's one big potential mistake. Enterprises care about making money > with whatever will help them do that (impress investors). Its developers > who care about languages that help them write code that suites their > requirements. The focus should be on developers not companies. People > using D cannot be represented by Microsoft, > Sociomantic, Weka, etc. employees. Its of no use chasing after > companies... make it useful and everyone else will come.
Well... if the goal is merely number of programmers, getting enterprises on-board is the easiest way to do it. Many (most?) professional programmers write nothing/very little after hours. Even if the programmers are on board, getting management to sign off may require throwing big names around. >> If you want to draw people to the language (and, honestly, I wonder why >> it matters so much to many here > Its a simple math well understood since long ago. The larger the > army/workforce the better. Things get done. Walter always say here "Its > left with someone to do the work". There other stuff he doesn't address > including those outside language internals. Most people that use a language (whether D, Rust, Python, C++) use their for their own projects, rather than for development of the language itself (I don't know about anyone else, but that's why I was looking for a new language in the first place). Increasing the number of programmers may just increase the number of requests for better infrastructure. Better tooling isn't going to come from numbers; more likely from something like: - A hobbyist that wants to build something, either for enjoyment or some other desire. - An organization investing in tools to increase the productivity of its programmers. - A partnership with a CS department somewhere, which might be mutually beneficial as students gain real-world experience arguing with engineers and graduate with code that they've written being used in production. > Either someone is paid to care enough to do that (Like Google do with > Go, Oracle with Java, Jetbrains with Kotlin, etc.) OR grow a > community/workforce to collectively make that happen. Like they always say, "It takes money to spend money." :) >> Of course there are the usual trolls who don't seem to write much D, >> but seem to be drawn like vampires to the energy of those who do. Sad. > > Someone who doesn't write D or have no stake in it's well-being will not > waste a second in this forum. People are people, the Internet's the Internet. Anything can happen. > You don't know for sure. Remember we don't all use D the same way. There's a DConf slogan for some year; it could highlight the diversity of uses/tasks/problems people solve with D. --Ryan
