On Tuesday, 30 January 2018 at 09:20:37 UTC, aberba wrote:
On Sunday, 28 January 2018 at 18:54:34 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
On Sunday, 28 January 2018 at 13:50:03 UTC, Michael wrote:
Enterprises care about making money with whatever will help
them do that (impress investors). Its developers who care about
languages that help them write code that suites their
requirements. The focus should be on developers not companies.
People using D cannot be represented by Microsoft,
Sociomantic, Weka, etc. employees. Its of no use chasing
after companies... make it useful and everyone else will come.
If you want to draw people to the language (and, honestly, I
wonder why it matters so much to many here
Its a simple math well understood since long ago. The larger
the army/workforce the better. Things get done. Walter always
say here "Its left with someone to do the work". There other
stuff he doesn't address including those outside language
internals.
- it's clearly
taking hold, has momentum and will continue to grow for
decades; an acorn will become an oak tree, and fretting about
how much it's grown in the past year might be missing the
point, so long as it's healthy enough), why not just focus on
both improving the language itself (pull requests,
documentation)
Someone needs to do that and we're short of people willing,
have the time and able to do that.
Either someone is paid to care enough to do that (Like Google
do with Go, Oracle with Java, Jetbrains with Kotlin, etc.) OR
grow a community/workforce to collectively make that happen.
and on accomplishing something useful and worth doing with it?
There's also a possibility the acorn will loose interest and
momentum and... die. Your opinion on what is worth doing is
based on your domain or interest.
I get the impression that a wave is coming (or is already here)
where people more and more are looking for modern
natively-compiled statically-typed languages --- leaving
Python/Perl/Ruby/PHP/JS --- not only for performance, but for
easier development for larger projects.
The languages I see benefiting primarily from this wave are D,
Rust, Go, and Kotlin/Native.
Of those, my impression is that Rust and Kotlin are perceived as
the most modern. Go and Rust have some hype, but Go's hype seems
to have already peaked. D appears well-positioned (good
community, high-level with GC, has dub and <code.dlang.org>, docs
and books are available).
If there are areas of D that need to be modernized, streamlined,
or simplified, but which will break backcompat, now may be a
excellent time to consider beginning those changes/deprecations.
