On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:47:39 -0400, Walter Bright <[email protected]> wrote:

On 9/13/2011 8:07 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Since when is marketing *ever* not misleading?

I don't think that's quite a fair statement. Good marketing informs a customer about a product that may be just the thing for his needs. With any product, there are different ways to view it, positive and negative, and they aren't wrong or misleading, just different.

Oh, come on :) There's positive and negative traits to everything. Marketing touts the positive and ignores the negatives. How is that not misleading?

How many beer commercials show people getting into drunk driving accidents? How many soda commercials show a 300 lb. hacker at his laptop with 15 empty soda cans around him? Almost every miracle diet cure shows testimonials with the disclaimer "results not typical". Marketing is misleading *on purpose*, it is your job as the consumer to not believe anything at its word, and to try and find the other side of the story.

If something is not misleading, it's generally published by an objective third party. If anything, I'd say tiobe is the *least* misleading marketing that D could have.

Most marketing is *truthful*, meaning the statements are true, or at least could be true. But it's typically partial truths, or skewed truth.


As for popularity of a programming language, no two people will even agree on a definition of it, let alone an accurate means of measuring it. Tiobe explains their methodology, and readers are free to interpret it as they see fit.

I don't see that as misleading.

As interpreted by Mr. Nowakowski, it's misleading to say that D is good because some objective language popularity measurement shows D is gaining ground. I say, that's just normal marketing. Even if it's not a true accurate measurement, it is a report somebody published, and why not take advantage of it?

-Steve

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