On 9/14/11 6:48 PM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote:
On 09/14/2011 05:41 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
One issue here is that the relative rank of Scala and D on Tiobe
has become a straw man. Let's not forget how it started: I posted
Tiobe's September newsletter to reddit and you considered it lame
marketing. Well I disagree.
It's not a straw man. The only reason the D was even mentioned on
Tiobe was because it hit #20.
It did so by ascending 8 positions without Tiobe having changed its
algorithm. Scala's position being computed wrongly or correctly well
below all 8 positions jumped has at best very little to do with that.
If it was languishing beneath #50 with Scala, which by any measure
that aren't bullshit Tiobe statistics it should be, then you would
have nothing to post.
Well, the problem here is that you mix an argument and its negation
in an illogical way. You simultaneously assume that Tiobe got D's
position wrong at #20 and Scala's position correctly at #50.
The Tiobe thing irked me, but I wasn't even going to say anything
until I saw snide comment about Scala at #50 in the reddit thread and
Caligo posting here about all the "haters" who downvoted this
"news".
Wonder why you took that out on me and others. One thing I try to do is
not get in the position of saying things that I'm sorry about later on.
You can be sure that I didn't quite warm up to your misplaced
self-righteousness and inappropriate words, but I did my best to not let
that make me respond in kind. You should know you'd do good to apologize.
It's misinformation, not news.
D is up 8 positions on Tiobe. That's news to me, and good news at that.
Andrei