Personally I would say that I am only able to not
use an IDE on hobby and very small scale projects.
On my line of work, where most projects are scattered around
the globe, with millions of lines and modules, the code navigation
tools that IDEs provide are priceless.
Now I am back to .NET after a few years doing mostly JVM stuff, and
I do conceed that many tools I take for granted on Java IDEs, even
for C/C++ development, are just missing in Visual Studio. It baffles
me that people find normal to buy Respher or VisualAssist for
funcionality that other IDEs have since years.
Still, if you are doing Windows desktop applications, Visual Studio is
the only game in town. I don't want to write by hand framework
boilerplate code that can be easily generated by Visual Studio.
And the debugger is quite nice as well.
--
Paulo
Am 07.01.2012 07:40, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
"Manu"<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Most windows programmers will simply not consider the
language until it is well supported in Visual Studio
Yea, and that's very unfortunate. I used to be a huge fan of visual studio
for years (from around MSVC 5 through the first or second VS.NET), but now
that I've tasted the alternatives, I find the build/project management to be
a little too "magical" and proprietary (or at least too incompatible and
inbred), and the UI to be too bloated. I think a lot of the people who are
unwilling to try anything but a heavyweight IDE are being unfair to
themselves and their projects by keeping themselves blinded. (Obviously, if
they've done both ways and still prefer big IDE's, that's different.)
And the thing is too, with popular overrated langauges like C++ or Java, you
*need* a fancy IDE to get anywhere and still maintain sanity. But what many
of those people don't get, is that with better languages, you *don't*
actually *need* all that other stuff. Sure, it can still be a nice bonus,
but it's *not* a necessity like with the popular "puzzle" languages they're
used to. It's like canned vegetables: You've gotta drench that shit in salt,
sauces, spices, and all sorts of stuff just to make it go down. But with
food that's quality in the first place, it doesn't matter: You can either
dress it up or leave it as-is; either way it still works
fine...no...*better* than starting with an inferior base.
