We need something recognizable by ear AND recognizable on a 
waterfall display. I suspect that RYRYRYRYRY fails the latter test, 
unless we're going to say that any RTTY signal will be interpreted 
as "QRL?"

    73,

        Dave, AA6YQ

--- In [email protected], "Andrew O'Brien" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> -Dave,
> 
> How about something as distinctive as RTTY's RYRYRYRYRYRYRY?  We 
all 
> recognize RYs without decoding it with a terminal.  Your tone idea 
> is good, anything that is easy to recognize with the ear would be 
> good. I wonder how QRLQRLQRLQRLQRLQRLQRLQRLQRL sounds in RTTY?
> 
> Andy K3UK
> 
>   -- In [email protected], "Dave Bernstein" <aa6yq@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > If "QRL?" in CW is too retro, we could specify a sequence of 
eight 
> 1 
> > khz tones of 250 ms duration separated by 250 ms to convey 
the "is 
> > this frequency in use?" message. It would be distinctive in a 
> > waterfall display, and could easily be recognized by application 
> > software.
> > 
> >    73,
> > 
> >       Dave, AA6YQ
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "jgorman01" <jg6164@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The problem here is that if the FCC drops Morse Code, they 
won't 
> be
> > > able require CW be used for this purpose.  You'll also have 
> folks 
> > that
> > > are adamant against having to learn Morse Code for this 
purpose.
> > > 
> > > Also, I usually don't listen to the frequency, the waterfall 
> > suffices
> > > for that.  Recognizing a QRL in CW may not work well in this 
> > situation.
> > > 
> > > Jim
> > > WA0LYK
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "Dave Bernstein" <aa6yq@> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > In addition, I sincerely doubt that a RTTY station, for 
> > instance, 
> > > > will recognize the CW QRL request and reply in 30 seconds.
> > > > 
> > > > >>>Most ops would quickly learn to recognize "QRL?" in CW. 
> > Replying 
> > > > requires nothing more than hitting a couple of keys, whether 
> on 
> > an 
> > > > KSR-33 or a keyboard.
> > > > 
> > > > It would be much better if the automatic station could 
respond 
> > to a 
> > > > standard QRL signal during receive periods (wasn't it you 
that 
> > > > suggested that to me at some time in the past?). 
> > > > 
> > > > >>>Yes, I did; the two techniques are complementary.
> > > > 
> > > >      73,
> > > > 
> > > >          Dave, AA6YQ
> > > >
> > >
> >
>






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