The absence of "and we checked the bandplan" from the process you describe below is both glaring and ominous. Conformance to voluntary bandplans is the foundation of the ARRL's claim (in RM-11306) that current constraints on remotely-invoked automatic operation can be eliminated without causing widespread QRM. If it doesn't occur to the ARRL to check the ARRL bandplan before repositioning its automatic station, what does this suggest about the likelihood that the larger population of automatic station operators will conform?
In case you had trouble finding the current ARRL bandplan, see http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/bandplan.html In particular, note the second line in the 160m table. 73, Dave, AA6YQ (member ARRL) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:06 PM To: Thomas Giella KN4LF; a RTTY COL eList; a Psk31 QTH eList; a Psk31 es eList; a psk31 eGroup; a PSK31 070 eGroup; a Oliviadata eGroup; a MFSK eGroup; a Digital Radio eGroup Cc: Carcia, Joe, NJ1Q; Turner, Dee (SM WCF); Donahue, Sandy (Vice Dir SE); Butler, Frank (Dir, SE) Subject: Re: [RTTY] ARRL To QSY To 1807.500 KC This was posted on the ARRL Web site earlier this morning. Thanks for your input. 73, David Sumner, K1ZZ W1AW 160-meter frequency change put on hold (Mar 1, 2006) -- QRX on that W1AW QSY! Maxim Memorial Station W1AW has rescinded recently announced plans to change its 160-meter CW frequency starting Monday, April 3 and will remain on 1817.5 kHz for the time being. The announced change to 1807.5 kHz was aimed at reducing the possibility of interfering with DX stations that have begun showing up in the vicinity of 1817.5 kHz. "Lately we have received more complaints about W1AW interfering with weak DX signals," said ARRL CEO and W1AW Trustee David Sumner, K1ZZ. "Some of these complaints were about key cicks, which set us on a quest to put the cleanest transmitter we could find on 160." With the key click problem on the way to resolution, it was decided nonetheless to move W1AW's 160-meter frequency lower in the band. "After what we thought was due diligence we decided that it made sense to shift below 1810 kHz," Sumner recounted, "since that is the lower band edge in Region 1 and would pretty much eliminate the conflict with DXers." Monitoring showed that 1807.5 appeared to be generally clear. "Unfortunately," Sumner continued, "we failed to pick up the fact that PSK31 operators appear to have adopted 1807 kHz as their 160-meter frequency, and we don't want to conflict with any established activity centers." Under a tight deadline to announce the W1AW operating schedule 30 days in advance, the League has rescinded the frequency shift for now. Sumner said the question will be revisited over the summer to try to gain consensus on a frequency to shift to after Daylight Saving Time ends October 29. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Giella KN4LF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 6:29 PM To: a RTTY COL eList; a Psk31 QTH eList; a Psk31 es eList; a psk31 eGroup; a PSK31 070 eGroup; a Oliviadata eGroup; a MFSK eGroup; a Digital Radio eGroup Cc: Carcia, Joe, NJ1Q; Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; Turner, Dee (SM WCF); Donahue, Sandy (Vice Dir SE); Butler, Frank (Dir, SE) Subject: ARRL To QSY To 1807.500 KC Hello Joe, I was hoping that you would pay me the courtesy of responding back about my concern over the plan for W1AW to QSY from 1817.500 kc to 1807.500 kc, right on top of the weak digital signal PSK31/63, MFSK16, OLIVIA MFSK, RTTY calling frequency. If RM-11306 band segregation by bandwidth becomes a Part 97 regulation, the ARRL has proposed that the mayhem be controlled by voluntary band plan. How do you expect ham's to take ARRL band plans seriously when the ARRL violates them. Do as I say not as I do hypocricy? --... ...--, Thomas F. Giella, KN4LF Lakeland, FL, USA Grid Square EL97AW [EMAIL PROTECTED] KN4LF Amateur & SWL Radio History: http://www.kn4lf.com KN4LF 160 Meter Propagation Theory Notes: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf8.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Giella KN4LF To: ARRL Joe Carcia NJ1Q Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:20 PM Subject: ARRL To QSY To 1807.500 KC Joe, As an ARRL member in good standing I'm advising you that it is a very bad idea to QSY W1AW operations from 1817.500 kc to 1807.500 kc beginning on April 3rd, 2006. 1807.500 kc +/- 3 kc is a main and very active frequency slice for weak signal PSK31, MFSK16, OLIVIA MFSK and RTTY digital operations. W1AW operation there would wipe out this main meeting frequency and more. On 160 meters the ARRL band plan calls for digital modes between 1800-1810 kc and CW between 1800-2000 kc, so it makes no sense to begin operation on 1807.500 kc. If you do the math it's 10 kc for digital modes and 200 kc for CW. I'm an avid CW operator too and I'm aware of the pressure the 160 meter CW DX community has been putting on your 1817.500 kc operations. But the solution to that issue is not to QSY down to 1807.500 kc. Please reconsider your frequency choice. --... ...--, Thomas F. Giella, KN4LF Lakeland, FL, USA Grid Square EL97AW [EMAIL PROTECTED] KN4LF Amateur & SWL Radio History: http://www.kn4lf.com KN4LF 160 Meter Propagation Theory Notes: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf8.htm Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:09:52 -0000 From: "Michael E Dobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: New ARRL 160M CW Frequency on top of PSK Frequency Check this out folks. We all need to email ARRL in protest. From the ARRL Web site: W1AW to QSY on 160 meters (Feb 23, 2006) -- Starting Monday, April 3, Maxim Memorial Station W1AW will be using a new 160-meter frequency for its CW transmissions. The new frequency will be 1807.5 kHz. "The last time we shifted frequency on 160 meters was back in 2003," says W1AW Station Manager Joe Carcia, NJ1Q. "Since that time, operating patterns have changed, and there is more DX showing up near our current frequency of 1817.5 kHz. We're shifting frequency to reduce the possibility of interference." -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: 2/28/2006 _______________________________________________ RTTY mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/rtty Need a Digital mode QSO? 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