I used to operate Amtor, Pactor I (and Clover II) a decade or two ago, 
when we had the old Aplink and later Winlink systems.  But at the time I 
did not have a good idea of how deep into the noise these modes could 
work. Is it possible for some of you folks who have Pactor (II and III 
as well, if you have that) to determine how deep into the noise they 
will work until the link slows to unusable levels and compare it with 
the newer sound card modes that can handle the same conditions?

I do know that when I used to try and connect on Clover II with Ray 
Petit, W7GHM, we would have what I would call today a moderately weak 
signal and not have any throughput, yet now it would  easily be able to 
print with Olivia/MFSK16/DominoEX/FEC, etc. Amtor and Pactor would quite 
working even though you could still hear the tones. One of the numbers I 
have heard is about -5 S/N where the Pactor modes fail. On the other 
hand, I recall SCS making the claim that it could operate much lower in 
the noise than that.

Real world testing like some others have been doing with DominoEX et al 
would be very helpful.

73,

Rick, KV9U




Andrew O'Brien wrote:

> Cheapest foray in to Pactor?
>
> IF  I  was to try to become QRV on Pactor (transmit capability), what
> is the cheapest way to get going.  I have an old Pk232 that I could
> upgrade for $130 or so, any cheaper alternatives?
> --
> Andy K3UK
> Skype:andyobrien73
> Also on Echolink
>



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