----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kd4e" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Unix was *always* secure and Linux flowed out of Unix
> as did BSD.  Unix is very old.
>


No way matey - I have used UNIX distributions where the username / password 
was stored in plain text. I refer to Ultrix in the mid to late 1980's. UNIX 
may be secure now, but in early days it was anything but secure. By contrast 
VMS was far ahead, as were the IBM offerings.

Windows NT / 2K etc. is derived from VMS.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
(GD4ELI March 2nd - 12th 2006) 

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