That is odd. I wonder which psk31 software you are using. I use WinWarbler, and it is able to copy almost every signal seen across a wide spectrum of 2 K or so, at any given time. Few if any of them are uncopyable. It copies traces that I can barely see, as well as spurs up and down the band from people running thos 50 watt rigs. Fyi , I run wideband copy, meaning there may be 40 signals across the spectrum I can see on the waterfall, and with my normal TS570S SSB filter. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB All 2 years or more (except Novice). Short stints at: DA/PA/SU/HZ/7X/DU CR9/7Y/KH7/5A/GW/GM/F Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred, I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do. Moderator DXandTALK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159
----- Original Message ----- From: Glenn L. Roeser To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: IZ8BLY's PSK63F + PSKFEC31 Hello Skip, I hope that shift happens because with the band conditions the way they have been, we do need something other than PSK31. Most of my PSK31 contacts are not very good print and I lose a lot of what is being sent due to QSB. And I have noticed that the power levels are creeping up and up. Years ago the top power levels for most PSK31 ops was about 15 watts output, now the norm is 35 - 50 watts. And even with higher power levels they print is far from being 100% print. Let's see if it catches on. Time will tell. Very 73, Glenn (WB2LMV) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: KH6TY <kh...@comcast.net> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 10:50:20 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: IZ8BLY's PSK63F + PSKFEC31 Glenn, I think in this case, it will be possible to see a paradigm shift if we start a major movement to PSK63F. The typing speed is as fast as PSK31, and the tuning is just as easy (not so with MFSK16), and if the minimum S/N is truly better than PSK31, hams will gravitate toward that like they gravitate to Olivia (which is uncomfortably slow). The gravitation is always toward the best performing mode, if there isn't anything else that makes it undesirable or hard to use. The problem is letting everyone know what mode is being used, and if RSID can do that, I suggest that serious activity on PSK63F be started right away just above the PSK31 activity. It is essential to know where to look for a particular mode as it is especially confusing to see a PSK63 signal and not have it decode because it is PSK63F. We will be adding PSK63F to fldigi very shortly. 73 Skip KH6TY Glenn L. Roeser wrote: It seems to me that we have been down this road before comparing the different digital modes. One thing is for certain, no matter what modes there are that may do much better than PSK31, 99% of all operators will always use PSK31. It is almost impossible to get more than 3% of the operators to try something new. Very 73 to all, Glenn (WB2LMV) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vojtech <bubn...@seznam. cz> To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 7:41:56 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: IZ8BLY's PSK63F + PSKFEC31 PSK63F is implemented in PocketDigi, source code is available. > PSK63F is in all cases better than PSK31. The only advantage of PSK31 is its smaller bandwidth. The other benefit of PSK31 is quick turnaround. But I agree that PSK63F shall be exercised and will be very useful at marginal conditions. 73, Vojtech