Hi Oliver, Deborah, I see your point, thank you.
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:31 PM, Deborah Tankersley < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Luigi, > > The A/B tests that we run are to specifically get a sampling of our > audience that uses the portal page <http://www.wikipedia.org> and then > log what their actions are on that page, in relation to what we happen to > be testing. We don't want folks going to the test on purpose and skewing > the random sampling. > > Hope that helps...! > > Cheers, > > Deb > > > -- > Deb Tankersley > Product Manager, Discovery > Wikimedia Foundation > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Gotcha! Well, that test is over, I'm afraid :). I know we do have methods >> for sort of forcing a session into a test population (for browsing >> purposes) but I'm not sure how I feel about the idea of making that >> available for _non_testing purposes. It kind of defeats the point of an A/B >> test if the population is self-selected and features people aware of the >> context of the test. >> >> On 26 January 2016 at 12:34, Luigi Assom <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> @ Oliver, >>> about A/B test I refer to the email of 13 Jan 2016 >>> by Deborah Tankersley >>> [discovery] New A/B testing on Wikipedia Portal page >>> however, yes I would like tobe included in A/B tests in general, not a >>> particular one. >>> I m mostrly interested in full text search, knowledge discovery and >>> discovery of topics' context. >>> >>> @Luca Nemo >>> >>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Query#Generators >>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Search >>> >>> Not much clear to me yet, sorry. >>> >>> I will rephrase my question: >>> I would like to do a full-text search (FTS) query, have the pageids and >>> decorators. >>> >>> I also would like to have results hit (I see them in API:Search, >>> list=search); I would like to access the page_Ids of articles (see them in >>> generators). >>> >>> I would like to understand if the backend between two is different, >>> since I've read list=search use an ElasticSearch instance, and it seems to >>> me it is faster and better FTS (not tried extensively, through). >>> Also, list=search offers a snippet and may be less expensive for wiki >>> server instead of quering an exerpt - is it the case? >>> >>> I pass: >>> params = {'action':'query', 'generator':'search', 'gsrnamespace' : 0, >>> 'gsrsearch' : keywords, 'gsrlimit' : 20 , 'prop' : 'pageimages|extracts', >>> 'pilimit' : 'max', 'exintro' : '', 'explaintext' : '', 'exsentences' : 3, >>> 'exlimit' : 'max', 'redirects' : '' } >>> >>> would like to do the same with list=search. >>> >>> Could you please show an example of FTS with list=search ? >>> >>> Not clear to me how coudl I pass a list to a generator, if it is the >>> case. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Which A/B test are you referring to? We have tried quite a few :). Or >>>> do you just generally want to be included in the A/B tests? >>>> >>>> On 26 January 2016 at 03:44, Luigi Assom <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > Hello, >>>> > >>>> > I have few question for discovery portal and API: >>>> > >>>> > - possible to be included in the 0.05% who tried the A/B test? >>>> > >>>> > - do you have or plan to have a feature for discovery *between* >>>> topics? E.g. >>>> > suggestions connecting two topics. >>>> > I ve been working on this. >>>> > >>>> > - Which is the difference in API:Search between: >>>> > list=search and generator=search ? >>>> > The first seems to be faster to me. >>>> > >>>> > - I need to fetch the pageIDs of the results, and have them already >>>> > redirected and decorated with images and snipped/excerpt. >>>> > >>>> > With generator=search I could do it, I can't with list=search >>>> > Could you help in grasping query parameters? >>>> > >>>> > #generator=search >>>> > params = {'action':'query', 'generator':'search', 'gsrnamespace' : 0, >>>> > 'gsrsearch' : keywords, 'gsrlimit' : 20 , 'prop' : >>>> 'pageimages|extracts', >>>> > 'pilimit' : 'max', 'exintro' : '', 'explaintext' : '', 'exsentences' >>>> : 3, >>>> > 'exlimit' : 'max', 'redirects' : '' } >>>> > >>>> > #list=search >>>> > params = {'action':'query', 'list':'search', 'srsearch' : keywords, >>>> > 'srlimit' : 20 , 'srprop' : 'size', 'indexpageids' : 1 } ?? >>>> > >>>> > I m trying with sand box with no success, only search results are >>>> hit, no >>>> > matter of >>>> > >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox#action=query&list=search&format=json&srsearch=Albert%20Einstein&srnamespace=0&srinfo=totalhits%7Csuggestion%7Crewrittenquery&srprop=redirecttitle%7Credirectsnippet&indexpageids=&generator=images >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > - I also found 0&formatversion=2' is another param used in search=list >>>> > Has it a special meaning? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > discovery mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Oliver Keyes >>>> Count Logula >>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> discovery mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> discovery mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Oliver Keyes >> Count Logula >> Wikimedia Foundation >> >> _______________________________________________ >> discovery mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > discovery mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery > >
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