On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 05:12:55PM +0200, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > >http://en.altlinux.org/Starterkits/gnustep > That's great! It makes me a little proud to see screenshots of > programs I developed or fixed myself inside a finished > distribution! Warms your heart slightly....
:-) > Did you package GWorkspace? I miss it from the screenshots... Yes: http://packages.altlinux.org/en/Sisyphus/srpms/gnustep-gworkspace > And BatteryMonitor? Is it? http://packages.altlinux.org/en/Sisyphus/srpms/gnustep-BatMon > perhaps you could add a list of packaged apps. It's all Eugene's work along with another guy's help at menufiles (I can tar those up and post separately, BTW); please find the package lists attached, added links to the wiki page too, thanks. > The menus look impressive, you must have packaged a lot of stuff! Some of the apps had to be ruled out for being mildly or totally broken with regards to functionality even if they got built and packaged but that left us with *lots* of software which behaved surprisingly well within UTF-8 environment and Russian locale given that some of the code hasn't been touched for 10 or 12y -- pretty impressive! > >Reactions were varying from "gorgeous!" to "you won't setup an > >office girl with this" to "you won't sell it unless it's slick > >and pretty out-of-box" [...] > Different opinions are normal. Someone wants something super-sleek, > someone wants something classic and traditional. Otherwise we wouldn't > have so many desktop environments, discussion for themes, etc etc. That's one of the reasons I tackled the whole Regular Builds project -- trying to bring upstream take at *NIX GUIs "as is": http://en.altlinux.org/Starterkits#livecd http://en.altlinux.org/Regular I was thoroughly amused to discover that Softpedia have went to review this truckload of images and it seems that these have defined ALT Linux for them to some extent, even being just a part of my personal project supported by ALT Linux Ltd lately: http://linux.softpedia.com/downloadTag/ALT+Linux GNUstep related item is not so much regarding GNUstep unfortunately, seems that there's some room for first-time impression still. I've seen http://www.aiei.ch/gnustep/ but making a *proper* distribution will take more love, talent, time and patience than I'm able to find continuously (so rather chose to provide more or less raw/solid base for those willing to improve upon it). > Have you packaged SystemPreferences and a couple of themes? Yes: http://packages.altlinux.org/en/Sisyphus/srpms/gnustep-systempreferences and http://packages.altlinux.org/en/search?query=gnustep-theme- Haven't fiddled much with these so this might be one of the useful points to apply some kind advice :-) > But the most improtant stuff is probably for you: > 1) improve and complete themes > 2) improve and complete existing apps > 3) new apps Eugene Rostovtsev (real/altlinux.org) has done tremendous job on that and he seems to be going on with both maintenance and packaging more bits; I've forwarded your message. > You deliver a GNUstep environment after all and we know it is > sadly incomplete or buggy... Well I know how helpful it is to be actually able to hand a livecd over, and what cleanroom testing means for complex software projects (along with easier pieces built upon those); so my take is "bootstrap software, glue people together" and not trying to fix the world singlehandedly. There's a terse list of woes identified with particular apps, maybe it should be translated and posted so that people with experience suggest to drop or replace those, or find the fix easy enough to land. I can also prepare some sort of development image putting more of the developer-oriented GNUstep software there (some of that has been skipped from this rather user-oriented one) and maybe ALT's build tools so those interested can both build packages and rebuild ISO images as they wish. And maybe I should subscribe the list finally (hesitated due to several dozen lists onboard already but hey it's mutt). :-) -- ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin / http://altlinux.org ------ http://opennet.ru / http://anna-news.info
gnustep-back gnustep-base gnustep-dirs gnustep-make gnustep-mknfonts gnustep-gui gnustep-gorm gnustep-gworkspace gnustep-themes-Gtk gnustep-themes-Neos gnustep-themes-Nesedah gnustep-themes-Narcissus gnustep-silver.theme # current apps; some are useless at the moment gnustep-aclock #gnustep-adgnumailconverter #gnustep-adserver gnustep-Affiche #gnustep-AppWrapper gnustep-Backbone gnustep-BatMon gnustep-Bean #gnustep-Burn cdrdao genisoimage gnustep-Camera gnustep-CameraTransfer gnustep-Cartotheque gnustep-CDPlayer gnustep-cenon gnustep-Chess #gnustep-Connect gnustep-Cynthiune gnustep-DataBasin gnustep-DisplayCalibrator gnustep-easydiff #gnustep-ec gnustep-EdenMath gnustep-Expense gnustep-FisicaLab gnustep-FlexiSheet gnustep-FreeTar gnustep-FTP gnustep-Gemas gnustep-Ghack gnustep-gmastermind gnustep-gmines gnustep-GNUMail gnustep-GNUWash gnustep-Gomoku gnustep-gorm gnustep-Graphos gnustep-Grouch gnustep-Grr gnustep-GRubik gnustep-GSBench gnustep-GScheme gnustep-GSCommander #gnustep-GSDock # i586-only, abandoned gnustep-gshisen #gnustep-GSKrab gnustep-GSPdf ghostscript-classic gnustep-GTAMSAnalyzer gnustep-gworkspace gnustep-HelpViewer gnustep-IconManager gnustep-ImageViewer gnustep-Ink gnustep-Innerspace #gnustep-jigsaw gnustep-KeyArcher gnustep-Ladder gnustep-LapisPuzzle gnustep-LaternaMagica gnustep-Localize #gnustep-LoginPanel gnustep-LuserNET gnustep-Lynkeos #gnustep-Mixer gnustep-Money gnustep-MPDCon gnustep-MusicBox gnustep-MusicKit gnustep-MyWiki #gnustep-NeXTGo gnustep-NoteBook gnustep-Paje gnustep-PictureFrame gnustep-Pixen gnustep-PlopFolio gnustep-Poe gnustep-Popup gnustep-Preview gnustep-PRICE gnustep-projectcenter gnustep-ProjectManager gnustep-quartzcore gnustep-RemoteDesk #gnustep-renaissance gnustep-SequenceConverter gnustep-SimpleAgenda gnustep-SlideShow gnustep-Stepbill gnustep-Stepulator gnustep-sudoku gnustep-systempreferences gnustep-TalkSoup gnustep-terminal gnustep-TextEdit gnustep-thematic gnustep-Ticker gnustep-TimeMon gnustep-Toolbox gnustep-Vespucci #gnustep-ViewPDF #gnustep-Vindaloo #gnustep-VolumeControl gnustep-Waiho #gnustep-Yap #gnustep-Zillion gnustep-Zipper
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