Am 29.11.2015 um 15:16 schrieb Riccardo Mottola <[email protected]>:
> Hi, > > Gregory Casamento wrote: >>> I absolutely want "our" menus, they are distinctive and useful and if I were >>> >to make a reference distribution, I'd want to retain that. >> They are OLD. More important than their usefulness is what they >> invoke and that is they make people think that we are NeXTSTEP and >> OPENSTEP only. Like it or not our old look is part of our problem. >> I'm sorry you don't like this fact, but it is based on tons of first >> hand observation over the last ten years. > > I'm sorry you mix look and with interface design. Facts and factoids. > > Actually, our menus are NEW, they are newer than in-window menus and > one-menu-bar on the top which came from Mac and Motif/OS2/Windows. They have > close parents and predecessors (e.g. SGI menus, Amiga menus) but NeXT made > them consistent. > > The interaction with our menus makes NeXT & GNUstep distinctive and as trying > to port applications back and forth it allows for a unique interaction. It > allows, for example to have very smooth document based applications which are > impossible to achieve (as still the latest office suite of a big software > company proves) with in-window menus. > It offers the same functionality as a top menu bar, but is more flexible and > works well with big screens or multiple-screens. We do not need to invent > things like "tearable menus" and even "palettes" are not strictly necessary. > > Thus, playing the same song is of no good for anybody. That is IMHO all correct about being distinctive, unique and consistent over multiple screens, but you don't see that in a screenshot. There you only get the look, not the feel. Imagine, someone from outside our community successfully installs GNUstep, is happy about how applications work and writes a blog entry, he/she will add screen shots which indeed looks old fashioned to his/her readers. This spreads a negative touch (except for fans of retro look). Unless some default theme looks "modern" or "vivid" or "up-to-date". Just my 2 cts. BR, Nikolaus _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnustep mailing list [email protected] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
