Le 31 juillet, 11:04:44 Ivan Vučica a écrit : > On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 11:41 AM Xavier Brochard <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > One problem is that the GNUstep project has nearly nothing to show to end > > users (except screenshots and descriptions). As a consequence a lot of > > people > > doesn't understand the project. They want to do a quick try but they > > can't. > > (in France we have the great http://linuxfr.org website where such > > questions > > often comes.) > > We discussed whether we want to have "GNUstep OS" or "GNUstep Desktop" at > the 2015 meetup, and the conclusion was IIRC "no". We vaguely agreed that > "reference system" would be fine.
I've forgotten that! > It's slightly unfortunate we don't have one yet, but Live CDs like this are > a good thing to address this problem. I need to try it out... :) > > Maybe you wonder why the talk about a "reference system" instead of a > proper "desktop environment"? I think what we generally agreed upon is that > GNUstep itself is not quite a desktop, but a set of development libraries > for writing applications. Think Gtk, not Gnome. We need something to show > off, but as we don't quite want to discourage particular use cases (Sparc > systems running Solaris with an old GCC, drawing directly with xlib. Or x32 > Windows systems drawing with Cairo built with cygwin) it becomes hard to > say "this is the true GNUstep environment, you should use this". > > But that we should have a reference system that we can point people to? Yes. Thanks for the clarification. Building the true GNUstep environment would never be my purpose : I want to write recipes that can help to install a light and working desktop for peoples that need it. Something that can also help to later install a full developper environment or a testing environmemnt, etc. Or something that can attract people to write or improve small apps as a starting point to development. > So in light of above comments, here's answers based on what I would > consider a 'reference' system: Thanks! > (...) > > - can I take some Etoilé components ? > > I don't know what this question means? Of course, yes, you can take some > Etoile components. :) These were real questions some people asked for :-) It shoulb be translated as "which Etoilé components are usable and useful, how to install, etc." > One of the things you omitted is "which gnustep-gui backend should I use?". > The answer is almost certainly "cairo". "opal" backend was not ready last > time I used/wrote it :) while "cairo" is fully functioning. This is a typical point not easy to understand while browsing GNUstep website. Thanks again! Xavier _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnustep mailing list [email protected] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
