I understand - I just hope that's not the case. What happened to the zone
file was unprecendented and just plain silly. If we have advanced
notification of changes - alot of people will participate as watcher. You
always have people who will test - and enjoy themselves doing it. Like
Walsh - I appreciate the time he takes to test things. Alot of us - like
Walsh have a committment to the DNS and from my point of view that's a
valuable resources that NSI can tap into.
Right now NSI spends alot of time monitoring traffic on lists pertaining
to them - but your right - they do very little participation, which I feel
could seriously improve their business. Hopefully your wrong - and if
your not, I won't be surprised. Because you are right, NSI is a creature
of habit - and habits are hard to change.
cheers
Joe Baptista
http://www.dot.god/
dot.GOD Hostmaster
+1 (805) 753-8697
On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Derek J. Balling wrote:
> You'll pardon me if I'm a bit doubtful and fall into the "I've heard
> this before." ... any NANOG subscriber will tell you that every time
> NSI screws the pooch, someone usually says later "Oops, we'll make
> sure we notify you in advance next time."
>
> and the next time, it crashes without warning.
>
> D
>
>
> At 12:07 AM -0400 7/30/00, Joe Baptista wrote:
> >As you all know NSI buggered up bigtime and screwed up the entire root SOA
> >for all zones under their administration. This was first mentioned on
> >NANOG and I brought it to the attention of NSI on the Domain Policy
> >list. They appologized later that day in their usual snippy way. But
> >today they applogized - properly - an internet first. And another first -
> >their going to give advance warning before they play around with the files
> >again. Another internet first.
> >
> >Who knows - if NSI starts to play ball this way - things may just get a
> >bit better. See attached.
> >
> >regards
> >Joe Baptista
> >
> > http://www.dot.god/
> > dot.GOD Hostmaster
> > +1 (805) 753-8697
> >
> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:02:40 -0400 (EDT)
> >From: !Dr. Joe Baptista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Rippe, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: SOA RNAME field in NSI Registry-administered zones
> >
> >
> >On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Rippe, Mark wrote:
> >
> >> Although tough to swallow, this has all been valid feedback. I am new at the
> >> Registry, so I cannot speak to the past. But I am fully accountable for the
> >> present and (for now anyway) the future of Registry operations. The Registry
> >> has an obligation to the entire internet community to:
> >>
> >> 1. Make as few mistakes as humanly possible
> >> 2. Give advance notification of events (e.g. changes)
> >> 3. When mistakes are made, apologize, fix them quickly, and put something in
> >> place so they aren't repeated.
> >>
> >> So, let me start right now. This was our mistake, no act of God. (We make
> >> mistakes just fine without God's help). We humbly admit the mistake and
> >> apologize for adversely impacting the internet. Additionally, starting now,
> >> changes to the zone generation process or other major "zone impacting"
> >> events will be posted in advance to this list and others (e.g. NANOG).
> >
> >Your right there - God had nothing to do with it - this was a very human
> >mistake and I think it best we keep God out of it.
> >
> >However - I am very pleased NSI has agreed with me that there needs to be
> >announcement anytime you guys plan major changes.
> >
> >I might also advise that it would be nice to see outage or error
> >reports. I have no idea - nor have you provide any reason why it
> >happened. We all know whomever changed the SOA had no clue what they
> >were doing - and it would be nice to have the details published in public
> >and filed with the NTIA/DOC - your masters.
> >
> >Is this matter in fact filed with NTIA/DOC?
> >
> >Regards
> >Joe Baptista
> >
> > http://www.dot.god/
> > dot.GOD Hostmaster
> > +1 (805) 753-8697
> >
> > >
> > > The Registry doesn't own the internet. We cannot run a stealth operation.
> >> Something tells me this won't be the last mistake we make. But I'm sure I
> >> can count on each of you to point out those mistakes and hold me accountable
> >> for turning these words into actions.
> >>
> >> (Additional apologies for the length of this msg.)
> >>
> >> Mark Rippe
> >> VP Registry Technical Operations
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
>
