Re: What to do against a Registrar who abuses his position?

[Rodney Payne, Support Team]

BINGO ----- Original Message ----- From: ecs To: Elliott@ LYregistry.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 5:10 PM Subject: RE: What to do against a Registrar who abuses his position? I've read your message twice to ensure that I understood what you were saying.  The following is my impression of what you are saying, please correct me if I am wrong.  But no flames as this is not  intended as a flame.   :)   Nor is this intended as legal or any other type of advice, it is just the impression I received from your message each time I read it.   First, it appears that you are fully aware of the reason why you have been unable to transfer these domains and in fact it appears you answered your own question in the last paragraph.   However, it is not evident from this message why you consider them to be dead domains, other than the fact that you are not receiving any cooperation in transferring them to another Registrar.  In what way are they restricting you from using the domain names, other than transferring them to another Registrar?  Are they preventing you from hosting them on the host of your choice or preventing you from selling them?   If so, then you may have a valid issue with them.   And are they really preventing you from transferring the domains to another Registrar?    You state that you are aware that they charge a transfer fee and a renewal fee if the domain name has been registered with them for under two years.  So it does not appear that they are preventing you from transferring the domain names, but may be requiring you to abide by the conditions of the contract you agreed to when you registered the domain names.   Please forgive me if I am wrong, but from your message the issue appears to be that you are attempting to violate your contract with them by transferring the domain names to another Registrar without paying the appropriate fees.   Have you contacted them, offering to pay the required transfer fees or have you just submitted a form from an OpenSRS RSP site, which was then sent to them to approve without any agreement to pay the required fees?   You mention that you may sue them over the issue.  I would advise having your attorney read the contract terms that you agreed to when you registered the domain name prior to taking any other action.  He can advise you if you must abide by these terms or if you can unilaterally change the terms and transfer your domain name to another registrar.   While you may consider these terms to be unfair, if they were in the agreement at the time you registered the domain names you are probably stuck with them.  But your attorney is the one that should be advising you concerning this, not members of this list.   I am not defending the other Registrar nor am I defending the terms of their Registration agreement.   In my opinion, based on what you have stated, it would be difficult to defend them on a moral ground.  However, they are probably on solid legal ground with the contract.  Which is why you need to discuss this with an attorney and not members of this list.   The bottom line is that you should always read any agreement before signing on the bottom line.           -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Elliott@ LYregistry.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What to do against a Registrar who abuses his position? I have been trying to transfer ownership of a Domain registered at UK2.net (CORE registrar).  I sent the funds and registered letter to CORE. Nothing. Three times, I tried to transfer the Domain to openSRS and I never received the confirmation e-mail.   An investigation by openSRS confirmed that [eMailLover.com]   QUOTE   The emails went out to [EMAIL PROTECTED]   UNQUOTE   When you register a Domain at UK2.net, you are NOBODY. They place THEIR name as Administrative and NEVER EVER answer any mail or pick up the phone.   I have tried to transfer to openSRS 2 other domains registered at UK2.net: [lottokill.com] and [lotowin.org]. Again, the e-mail goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and NO ANSWER.   Has anyone experienced this problem ? Can anyone know what to do ? This is a real "theft" case. And should no soluton be found I will take them to court. I am serious about it. I have few hundred Domains there and can't do anything with them. DEAD domains!!!! (somewhere they mention that they would charge £19 (35$) to accept to transfer a Domain if registered under two years, plus 70$ for the new registration fees!!!!)   Thanks for any possible help.   [EMAIL PROTECTED]