We receive 300-1500 spam emails per day, on the 27 sites
that we control. Try receiving 27 copies of the latest
greatest way of getting rich on the net. We are very happy
on the days when the volume is only 300. I sure hope you
don't receive much more than that.
I did not say I liked it. I would love to see this list
moderated. In fact I would prefer to see this list
restricted to RSPs and not open to the general public. But
I can understand why it is not moderated and why members of
the public are allow to use the list.
However, generating all these "noise" messages complaining
about the "noise" is not helping the problem. :) Hitting
the delete button is more effective, as the complaints will
do nothing but generate additional responses to the
complaints, which in turn generates more of the "noise" that
is being complained about.
Your response here makes my point. You not only sent me a
copy of this message, you sent copies to both of the OpenSRS
lists.
Were you concerned about the "noise" level of the list
instead of just trying to make your point, you would have
sent this message direct to me instead of promoting it to
the various OpenSRS lists. Apparently if you send the
message, it's not "noise" but information that should be
received by both lists.
Which is the point I am making, which you apparently missed.
What you consider to be "noise" might be considered
important by another member of the list. What you consider
to be important, such as this message that you sent to both
lists, may be considered to "noise" by other members of the
two lists.
The list manager is the only person with the authority to
say what is "noise" and what is important. That goes double
when the information/"noise" is being provided by a member
of OpenSRS, who apparently thought the announcement was of
use to some of the list members or he would not have posted
it here.
I don't try to dictate to other list members. I read what
interests me as I have the time and delete the rest. I
suggest that if you followed that rule, some of the "noise"
would decrease.
All this could have been handled by private email to the
parties involved instead of posting to the lists. However,
once the person who complains posts his complaints to the
list, then neither he nor his friends should complain when
the responses to his message are posted to the same lists.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe
Rhett
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 3:37 PM
To: ecs
Cc: Ross Wm. Rader; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fwd: New Release of OpenSRS Client and Server,
v2.2 (fwd)
You completely fail to miss the point. The OpenSRS site
indicates that an
announce list is available. It tells us that we can sign up
for this and
receive announcements. Nothing ever indicates that we _must_
sign up for
the developer list to receive announcements.
Just because you like it doesn't make it right.
And just hitting delete for messages we don't want --
clearly you don't get
the volume we do. The point of subscribing and filters an
announce list is
so that we can prioritize and know what we have to know,
versus things we
can read later at our leisure.
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 03:26:11PM -0500, ecs wrote:
> Bill,
>
> In my opinion, you are making a mountain out of a
molehill.
>
> It is not that hard to hit the delete button on the
messages
> that you do not wish to read. If this list contained
> thousands or even hundreds of messages per day, then I
might
> support your point.
>
> However, this is a fairly low volume list, where the
"noise"
> does not make that great of an impact.
>
> Your messages about this issue and the responses by
OpenSRS
> to them have generated more "noise" on this list than the
> original announcement did. I received the announcement
> yesterday, so when I received this message and read the
> first line, I deleted it.
>
> No real big deal to hit the delete button.
>
> There are a lot of messages that hit this list that I have
> absolutely no interested in, however, I do not send a
> response to each one of them asking that they not be
> discussed. After all, I am just one person on this list
and
> other list members may be interested in the subject
matter.
>
> So I hit the delete button and move on.
>
> As to those who no longer subscribe, I would say that was
> their loss.
>
> This list does contain information that I find helpful
from
> time to time. My helpful information may be your "noise",
> but then we are not the only two on this list.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 1:47 PM
> To: Ross Wm. Rader
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Fwd: New Release of OpenSRS Client and
Server,
> v2.2 (fwd)
>
>
>
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Ross Wm. Rader wrote:
> > I believe that announce-list was deprecated by ScottA a
> while back...he
> > now uses the live-reseller mailing facitility thing...
>
> I hope not. Announcements should be archived and the
> announce list is the
> perfect place for it.
>
> By posting the announcement to all of the mailing lists
> "because some of
> you may have missed this" makes my point perfectly clear.
> The
> announcement list serves a very important and useful
> purpose. I know of
> many people who no longer subscribe to discuss and dev due
> to all of the
> noise (this includes more than live resellers). This make
> another good
> point for the need of an announcement list.
>
> Regards,
> Bill
>
--
Joe Rhett Chief
Technology Officer
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Services, Inc.
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