At least when people play the lottery, they know that WHAT will be given
away in the end, and they know that SOMEBODY actually has a chance at
winning it. With this, RegLand is selling a chance at getting something
that may very well never exist. Oh, and not only are they charging for the
CHANCE, they're also going to ding you for the actual registration if it
DOES go through!! They get you coming and going.
I agree that the RegLand site is upfront about the risks of doing business
with them, but I also think they're playing the same game that insurance
companies play; playing off people's fears about what *might* happen, and
capitalizing on their willingness to pay money in a vain attempt to get the
upper hand.
Regards,
Eric Longman
Atl-Connect Internet Services
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shifter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Affilaite Program
Lee & Rick,
Though I'm not necessarily condoning the service of pre-registering
yet to be dtermined TLDs, I can see a valid argument for Rick's
position. If I wanted to pay $20. for a domain name that I really
wanted, with the hope that ICANN adopts that TLD, who is going to
provide that service? Rick. If that TLD doesn't get approved, I'm out
$20. That is an acceptable loss considering I had a better chance of
getting the domain than the guy who thought it was a scam and was
going to wait until every Registrar carried that TLD. He would have
submitted it far later in the queue than I had.
The issue here, I think, is whether the consumer knows he's paying
for a CHANCE at the name, and not for the name ITSELF. After all, 100
million people in North America play the lottery every week! They
don't freak out when they don't win, they just keep on paying. I
think that regland.com makes this very clear.
Now, as for who the "affiliates" are, and what the "agreements"
propose to do, is very unclear at regland.com. This lack of clarity
certainly gives me a sense of uneasiness when reading the details,
and I definately wouldn't be sending them MY money (no offense
intended, Rick). I'd like to know in advance who the Registrar will
be so I can check them out in advance, as well as know where to go to
manage my domain when (read "if") it gets put through.
In summary, I think that the argument for pre-reg of the YTBD TLDs is
clear, given that the consumer knows it is a lottery and that details
are disclosed of how the process will occur, and with whom.
Best Regards,
Stephen Schaff
--- "Lee Hodgson - DomainGuideBook.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Rick,
>
> Thank you for your reply.
>
> I don't see how ICANN could restrict duplicates. They have to
> accept all
> entries, and then chose one (or none) of the duplicate entries.
> What would
> you have preferred. First come, first served?
>
> I have read a lot about pre-registration on the OpenSRS discussion
> list and
> other places, and there are a lot of professional people there that
> have
> been around as long as you have, and the concensus is that your
> 'pre-registration' idea is a scam. If you can persuade me
> otherwise, great,
> I will tell everybody that you have a great system.
>
> But I do worry greatly about a site that is taking $20
> (non-refundable) of
> people's hard-earned money for the slight chance that they get a
> name they
> want, in TLDs that haven't even been announced yet. Let's imagine
> that ICANN
> only approve 3 new TLDs. You'll be pocketing the money of all the
> people
> that tried to 'pre-register' the other 17 domains you 'support'.
> How nice
> for you.
>
> And just how exactly is your system so great? You've got a fast
> link, big
> deal. Just who are the registrars that you have done deals with?
> How could
> you, it isn't even known yet which registrars will be operating the
> new
> names. And your queue is no better than my queue or anybody else
> queue,
> because you haven't actually queued the names anywhere worthwhile
> at all.
> They are just sitting on your server.
>
> The only real pre-registration going on is for .CA names, but I see
> you're
> not involved in that.
>
> Sorry, bud. If it looks like a scam, and smells like a scam,
> chances are it
> is a scam.
>
> Just my opinion of course.
>
> Lee Hodgson
> http://DomainGuideBook.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick Hernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 11:56 PM
> Subject: RE: Affilaite Program
>
>
> > Lee,
> >
> > Both David and I came accross several sites that we thought had
> partnership
> > possibilities with Regland. I was sincere when I said that I
> liked your
> > site. I don't think I should be attacked as a spammer for
> sending the
> same
> > message to multiple sites. I visited each site and sent an email
> when
> > appropriate. I did not tell everyone the same thing--I may have
> typed the
> > same thing on some occasions for expediency or for a lack of
> better words.
> > I was trying to inquire to see if there was interest. If there
> is not
> then
> > so be it. You have also attacked my company as a SCAM. The
> biggest SCAM
> in
> > domain names is ICANN. They were taking $50,000 applications for
> new tlds
> > and they were not restricting duplicates. Our customers know
> that
> > pre-registration is speculative. We tell them that ICANN may not
> approve
> of
> > any names. But if they do, we offer a service -an automated
> solution to
> > send names through to be registered--for those that want a shot
> at a good
> > domain name. The fact of the matter is one can choose to be
> early and
> take
> > a chance with us for a good domain name and have it submitted as
> fast as
> > possible or to wait until everything is decided and then begin to
> register
> > the name. Who do you think has the best chance of getting the
> name they
> > want?
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lee Hodgson - DomainGuideBook.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:38 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Affilaite Program
> >
> >
> > Firstly, are you David or Rick.
> >
> > Secondly, you sent the exact same email to many domain sites
> yesterday (=
> > SPAM)
> >
> > Thirdly, there is no synergism - we both compete registering
> domains
> >
> > Fourthly, I have just written an article for DEMC condemning the
> > pre-registration scams that are going around.
> >
> > Fifthly, you can guess that I'm not interested.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David Hernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 3:15 AM
> > Subject: Affilaite Program
> >
> >
> > > Great Site. I came across your site yesterday and I think that
> your
> site
> > > has some definite synergism with http://www.Regland.com. Check
> us out!
> > We
> > > have terrific affiliate programs for both high volume and low
> volume
> > sites.
> > > We believe in long-term and highly profitable partnerships with
> our
> > > affiliates. I hope we can make some money together SOON.
> > >
> > > Yours truly,
> > >
> > > Rick Hernandez
> > > Director of Sales and Marketing
> > > http://www.Regland.com
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 210-495-9800
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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