Hello Toxik,

Friday, February 09, 2001, 7:40:44 AM, Toxik - Fabian Rodriguez wrote:

> William,

> You didn't understand the relationship of Tucows with Entrust...

>> 1) The $25 ISP discount applies only to the first year
> News for me.. but $25 is not what makes the biggest difference. Once the
> customer has obtained a certificate at one place, unless bad service/support
> are included, chances are they will renew it at the same place (unless you
> sell only certificates).

>> 2) Thawte is owned by Verisign, which also owns NSI, and do you trust
>> them to keep that pricing at this level when they are competing with
>> themselves at $399/yr?  Do you want them to have your customers in
>> their customer database, thus giving them implicit permission to
>> market to them?
> This applies to Tucows too, since they get their certificates at Entrust,
> which in turn is a Thawte CA authority. I can't say if they all shar customer
> lists, though.

That's not how this works.  That is what I am trying to explain to
you.  It isn't like a multilevel relationship.  The Thawte role in
this is that Thawte ONLY signed Entrust's CA Certificate, and Thawte
has NOTHING to do with the individual certs issued by Entrust.

>> 3) Certs are not levels in the sense you mean.  The Entrust CA
>> certificate, like the Equifax CA certificate, has been signed by
>> Thawte, which enables those CA's to work with older browsers without
>> error messages being sent to the users.

> To the customers this is not the case. They know Thawte better that the otwo
> others and their perception is that they obtain certificates of "3rd level".

The customers will not know about this, the certificates do not
mention Thawte, and Thawte has nothing to do with their issuance.

>> However, Tucows isn't competitive at $99 anyway, I'd recommend the
>> business partner program at Equifax as it stands right now.

> For Canadian customers this might be OK, even in US. But when explaining this
> to overseas customers, they tend to trust Thawte more. Why would they get a
> certificate with a reseller that's been in business for 1yr. when Thawte is
> the primary CA and has been around much longer ?

Entrust is not a reseller, nor is Equifax.

That's what I am trying to get across to you.  This is a misconception
you appear to have.

-- 
Best regards,
 William                            mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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