The truth of the matter is CIRA HAS released the policies but there's two
things stopping us from moving forward.
1) The fee structure hasn't stabilized
CIRA regards change of ownership (Registrant transfer) as a billable event,
but they haven't decided who they charge yet or how much. Also, for
Registrar transfers, there's some confusion on charging an optional "exit
fee" by the losing Registrar.
2) Their methods do not mix well with a wholesale business model
CIRA ignores the fact that some sellers are wholesalers. They work with the
assumption that the Registrar deals DIRECTLY with the Registrant - which
isn't true in our case. In order to get this working, we have to be sure
that all the appropriate fees are accounted for, chargeable, and trackable.
Until the fee structure is set (should happen this month, assuming they
don't plan to change it in the future) we cannot begin to really work out
how this will all work with our system.
Charles Daminato
Product Manager (ccTLDs)
Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Toxik - Fabian
> Rodriguez
> Sent: March 15, 2001 11:17 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: .CA domains transfers: WHEN ?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been asking this question for some time and now it's
> becoming an issue
> for us and I wanted to know if other RSPs are going through the same.
>
> We are getting more and more customers that had already
> registered their .CA
> domains elsewhere.
>
> For .COM/.NET/.ORG, we have a policy saying that the domain has to be
> transferred to us (in OpenSRS) before we provide any service. This ensures
> quality and control, at least more than if we managed domains for
> our customer
> at 100 different registrars.
>
> This is not possible right now with OpenSRS, since apparently
> it's only been a
> couple of weeks that CIRA released the tech. specs and they are
> "working on
> it". Meanwhile, at least one othe registrar has been doing it for
> quite some
> time. We have lost customers to them since it's easy to transfer.
> Now we are
> getting the overhead of having to communicate with each .CA
> registrar that new
> customers bring to us with thei .CAs, since we can't transfer those to
> OpenSRS. Is anybody having the same problem ?
>
> .CA registrars like webdomaine.qc.ca and zid.com still validate everything
> manually and I'd rather be on OpenSRS than on those systems, if
> only to have
> realtime control on WHOIS record changes.
>
> A critical moment is when DNS changes are required. Some registrars have
> replied they can't tell precisely when a modification is going to be
> effective! Imagine, we get replies like "somewhere between 24-48h
> from now". I
> am not talking about propagation time but about the actual modification.
>
> I thought transfer was a GREAT way to get new customers on .COM/.NET/.ORG,
> since we are offering them a better service.
> Why can't we say the same for .CA ? Or rather... when will we be
> able to do so
> ?
>
> Fabian Rodriguez - Associate Dir., Outsourcing and Business development
> Toxik Technologies Inc. - www.Toxik.com - (514)528-6945 x1
>
