> If opensrs is selling their whois Database to spammers, I think they will
> be in for a lot
> of lawsuits, and complaints. It is a really low thing to do.
Argh. We aren't selling our WHOIS database to Spammers. We sell to anyone
who pays because we have to. See:
6. In addition, Registrar shall provide third-party bulk access to the data
subject to public access under Section II.F.1 under the following terms and
conditions:
<snip>
c. Registrar's access agreement shall require the third party to agree not
to use the data to allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of
mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail (spam).
There are protections against using Bulk access for spam, and Ross Radar has
assured this list (on a number of occasions) that the spam in question is
not being sent by anyone who pays for access to our bulk WHOIS information.
> Unless you :
>
> A ) stop selling your whois database
Get it straight. As posted more often then I can remember on this list, we
HAVE to make this available to anyone who will pay the fee (maximum fee of
$10000 annually). Please, review:
F. Public Access to Data on SLD Registrations. During the term of this
Agreement:
1. At its expense, Registrar shall provide an interactive web page and a
port 43 Whois service providing free public query-based access to up-to-date
(i.e. updated at least daily) data concerning all active SLD registrations
sponsored by Registrar in the registry for the .com, .net, and .org TLDs.
The data accessible shall consist of elements that are designated from time
to time according to an ICANN-adopted policy. Until ICANN otherwise
specifies by means of an ICANN-adopted policy, this data shall consist of
the following elements as contained in Registrar's database:
<snip>
i. The name, postal address, e-mail address, voice telephone number, and
(where available) fax number of the administrative contact for the SLD.
> B ) take steps to protect the data, like hiding the email address in the
> whois output
See above.
As the registrar we MUST include this infromation in the WHOIS. For a simple
explanation of one reason why,
other Registrar's depend on the information whe processing transfer request
orders.
One hates to accuse members of one's client base of shallow understandings
of the business they are in, but we're left with little choice after
repeatedly explaining the way things are only to hear the same mis-infomred
cries from people who we have supposedly 'wronged'.
Ken.
>
> Duane
>
> At 11:25 AM 4/25/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi all-
> >
> >I think this has been discussed before, but I don't recall there
> being any
> >resolution. Late last week I registered a domain for a client who is
> >pretty tech-savvy and today I received a message from him stating that
> >someone was already spamming him based on that registration.
> >
> >Here is a copy of the message he received (details replaced with 'XXX'):
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 12:43 PM
> >To: XXX
> >Subject: [RE:] Domain Name: XXX.COM
> >
> >
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >We've just been notified that you have purchased XXX.com. Great!
> >
> >Now that you have your domain, wouldn't it be GREAT to have
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]?
> >Wouldn't it even be better if you could offer FREE web-based
> email for your
> >visitors?
> >
> >Well now you can! For FREE!!! Using our web-based email, you will:
> >
> > � Generate more revenue for your company!
> > � Get FREE advertising for your company!
> > � Increase the value of your domain name!
> > � Improve the "stickiness" of your site!
> > � And best of all, get email ASAP!
> >
> >Go to http://oemmail.com/ to get started.
> >
> >AOL users <a href="http://oemmail.com/";>CLICK HERE</a>
> >
> >-------------------------------------------------------
> >We believe this is a useful tool and hope you can take
> >advantage. If you would prefer not to receive email
> >from us, please reply to this email with the word
> >"remove" within the subject line.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >OemMail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >I informed him that he ought to consider using a different email address
> >for domain registrations to make it easy to filter out spam.
> >
> >My concern is that this sort of message could be confusing to the retail
> >consumers of our site who get the same service from us. We do let them
> >know that their registration info is public and that they may
> get spammed
> >at their registration address(es), but I'm left looking for a
> better solution.
> >
> >-Russ
> >
> >
>
