Working with one of our support fellows (who has an easier time testing IDN resolution than I because of the native character issue)
Thanks! Ken > -----Original Message----- > From: John Spohr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 11:10 AM > To: 'Ken Joy' > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Multilingual domains > > > Hi Ken, > > Thanks for the reply. > > I still say they do not work though. > > Here is a domain I have registered personally > bq--gdemv7a.com > > I do not know if you will be able to read this or not, but here it is in > Japanese. > トナー.com > or www.トナー.com > > My dns is set up on a cobalt server Raq3. The virtual sight is set up on > the same Raq 3. The DNS settings are as below. Does not show IN A > because I copied and pasted this from the cobalt interface. > > bq--gdemv7a.mltbd.com 211.15.66.235 > www.bq--gdemv7a.mltbd.com 211.15.66.235 > > If you/or I type in either http://bq--gdemv7a.mltbd.com or > http://www.bq--gdemv7a.mltbd.com or click on these links it resolves > correctly. > > However, if we type in http://www.トナー.com or just http:// $B%H%J!<.com > in the URL window or click on these links, it fails to get anywhere near > resolving. > > I would be more than happy to give you access to my DNS server and have > you tell me what I am doing wrong. However, since it does resolve > correctly when typing in the race code, I think it proves that I have > set up the virtual site and the dns on my dns server correctly. > > I have just tried this again from all of the above 98J IE5 does not > Resolve, Win2000ServerJ IE5.5 does not resolve, WinXPJ IE6 does not > resolve and when you type http://www.トナー.com into any of the above > browsers and combinations they do not work or resolve. It also does not > work by clicking on the above links. > > So do I have to use an English system with IE5 or above in English to > get Multilingual Domains to work??? Sounds kind of ridiculous. > > John R. Spohr > I.S. International, Inc. > Tokyo Japan > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-discuss-list@opensrs. > org] On Behalf Of Ken Joy > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 11:46 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Multilingual domains > > > Where is this "NEW" User Guide?? > > >How new is it??? > > New enough to contain the most up to date information about multilingual > name resolution. > > >Unless something has > > drastically changed in the last 2 months of which there has been no > > announcement, they do not work. > > They work exactly as I described they would in previous announcements > citing > the exact same New User Guide that we're talking about here. > > > I have been over this multiple times > > with the people at Tucows, and everybody keeps saying they work, but > > they DO NOT work. > > They work as well as they possibly can given the nature of the > initiative. > I'm pasting in the instructions for your convenience: > > We are currently in Phase 2. In order to test your multilingual name > registration during Phase 2, you must set up the zone file for your > domain > as follows: > multinlingualname.mltbd.com IN A IP.ADD.RE.SS bq-qbdfecssd.mltbd.com IN > A > 123.321.123.321 > NOTES: > The file must use either the mltbd.com, mltbd.net or mltbd.org zones, > depending on whether your > multilingual name is a .com, .net, or .org. > > Once that's done, web surfers with IE 5 or greater who enter native > characters into the URL window and hit 'enter' will be taken to the site > specified in the DNS> > > > If you want to type the race code into the url window, and you define > > that as working then ....... > > I do not. Are you sure you've followed the instructions correctly? > > >, but if you want to type Japanese (or > > other native) characters into the url window and have them resolve, it > > certainly does not work. > > It certainly does. I've seen it myself. > > >I with > > People at Tucows say they do, but I have not > > been able to get them to resolve from Japan no matter what version of > IE > > I use or what OS. > > This is a completely different statement that "it certainly does not > work". > > > As I understand it, Microsoft wants to do it their own way, Verisign > > wants to do it their own way, and neither of them are willing to budge > > until ICANN defines a standard, which is pushing on a year and a half > > now. > > All of this may be true, but it does not stand in the way of the fact > that > correctly set up DNS with the correct browser will result in a 'working > solution' for at least some people. > > > As it stands, I would bet that in about 2 months, 90 to 95% of our > > Multilingual Domain name registrants are not going to renew because > they > > are disenchanted with it. > > This would not surprise me. The six month extension on the names was > meant > to placate these people; after speaking with Verisign, I got the > impression > that we could all expect some movement on this in the next couple of > months, > but they are loath to commit to timeframes because the quest for a > 'standard' does complicate the issue. > > ? IMHO, Verisign as well as Tucows and others, > > should not charge any further renewal fees until the MDNs correctly > > resolve in the actual root dns and not in some half brained > work-around > > to try and pull a little more money out of people. > > We will charge resellers for renewals as long as Verisign is charging us > for > renewals; of course people who don't believe the process will ever bear > fruit are free not to renew; I can even lobby Verisign with your > arguments, > but I can almost guarantee that I won't sway them....sure they are > interested in running an industry leading 'test initiative', but more > basically, they are interested in making money. > > Thanks, > > Ken > > > > > John Spohr > > I.S. International, Inc. > > Tokyo, Japan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ken Joy > > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 5:03 AM > > To: John Keegan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Multilingual domains > > > > 1. The names will resolve if you set up your zone files according the > > instructions in the New User Guide AND the 'surfers' are using IE 5.0 > or > > higher. > > > > 2. Verisign will be switching to a new encoding standard *sometime* in > > the > > next few months. When they do, we will deal accordingly (and it should > > not > > affect how Resellers register multilingual domains). > > > > 3. I have no idea about the 'rest' of the schedule (which I see as the > > move > > to a standard that is NOT depenadant on browser plug ins) in terms of > > timelines. However, I'll look into it. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Ken > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Keegan > > > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:00 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Multilingual domains > > > > > > > > > What is the current status of Multilingual domains? What "phase" of > > the > > > experiment are we now in andhow usable are the domains currently? > > > > > > -- > > > John Keegan > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://RackShare.com > > > > > > > > > > > >
