Chuck,
Don't want to make this any worse, but we do the same thing at
directNIC.  If a customer charges back on us, they did not pay for the
domain, I did.  Not only did I pay the registration fees, but I paid the
chargeback fees.  So we take the domains and put them up for sale.  If I
could I would redirect them to some horse porn site, but the owners
wouldn't let me.  :)

So I do understand why register.com and godaddy confiscate domains.

Donny

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-discuss-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Daminato
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 7:47 PM
> To: Mark Petersen
> Cc: John T. Jarrett; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Changing Admin Info after Refund
> 
> Precedence does not make it "right".  I don't fully understand the
> legalities of it (Ross would have to explain - Ross?), but I
> believe Register does not take control of the domain (i.e. they
> don't assume ownership and sell to soemone else).  They simply
> "hold" it, if it's not paid it stays on hold until the day it
> expires (then it goes up for deletion)
> 
> Charles Daminato
> TUCOWS Product Manager
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Mark Petersen wrote:
> 
> > Stand on precedence. Register.Com is allowed to seize domains on a
daily
> > basis.
> > The routinely change registrants WHOIS information from whatever
*was*
> there
> > to:
> >
> >       register.com
> >       Unpaid Names Department-R
> >       575 Eighth Avenue
> >       New York, NY 10018
> >       US
> >       Phone: 212-798-9200
> >       Fax..: 212-594-9876
> >       Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > If they can do it, why shouldn't we be able to?
> > It's supposed to be a level playing field, right?
> > Good luck,
> > Mark
> >
> > Mark Petersen    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Planet Nic    http://www.planet-nic.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John T. Jarrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:45 PM
> > Subject: Changing Admin Info after Refund
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Paul over in compliance says it is against ICANN reg's for
> > > me to change admin info after a customer refunds on the
> > > domain name registration:
> > >
> > > "I hate to tell you this but you are not allowed to change
> > > the whois information - ICANN rules. It appears as though
> > > you are trying to take away someone else's property."
> > >
> > > Frankly, I couldn't care less how it looks. I've offered the
> > > refund codes from the merchant account holder LinkPoint
> > > themselves so there's proof behind appearances.
> > >
> > > Can y'all point me to what he's talking to? I can't find it
> > > in the UDRP or the Reg Agreement. I don't mind complying
> > > with written rules if I can find them, but I'd rather not
> > > let this woman steal three domain name registrations if I
> > > don't have to!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > John
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 



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