My 20 cents are this.  Geotrust has incorporated the same bad habits that
Verisign used to become & appear abhorrent to many people.  It's odd that
"Trust" from an end user standpoint starts with going to the people you know
(the reseller or developer) for services. Geotrust in following Verisign's
footsteps has apparently forgotten the value of certain important
relationships.  

Geotrust, the reseller is your customer, not the end user.  You are better
off having 50 reseller customers offering service (and act as go-between)
each with 5-10 end user certs than a large number of end user customers who
are going to hit you with every dumb problem imaginable.  Go ask your
bookkeepers what they think of managing 10,000 $50/year relationships as
opposed to 1,000 $500/year relationships.

The only business plan that makes any sense is to encourage and strengthen
your ties to the resellers who go out and peddle to the public.  Then
everything is better for you, the reseller filters 99% of the B.S. questions
and supplies your small, manageable tech support with real querries they can
help with.

It is important that you understand the "value added intelligence" of your
reseller customer base.  With them on your side they will shield you from so
much hassle.  And why risk pissing off your resellers and the end user
customer to boot by making unsolicited introductions to no good end.  When I
buy a ream of paper does the person who cut down the tree try to contact me?
And why would I want to talk to them?  I trust Staples to provide me with a
quality ream of papaer and it is between Staples and their supply to arrange
how they make this happen.

I understand a reseller could go out of business and then it would make
sense for a "by the way..." message but every effort should be made to deal
with and support your reseller first.

Happy Holidays to all.

Sincerely,

Ken Kaprielian

 At 02:26 AM 12/20/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Exactly. We have been dealing with GeoTrust directly, but we are about to
>stop that and not even consider going back to OpenSRS selling certificates
>as it seems the same dilemma stands. They apparently want to use us as
>"Affiliates" and then make more money on the following years. Not going to
>happen. I think we are going to stop selling certificates period.(Hate to as
>hostig and domains follow hand in hand but...)  I have had many calls in the
>last 3 weeks about this. Asking "Why are we receiving this? Didn't we buy
>these certificates from you?  Why does Geotrust contact me about the
>expiration and not 4CheapDomains.Net?"
>
>What's the scoop OpenSRS? ;o0
>
>
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>Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 4:03 PM
>Subject: Text in GeoTrust email message
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