Hi Nguyen Vu Hung, *,

hope this is the correct appellation..

first of all: I'm not involved in Software development and neither in
QA *therefore* I'm answering here. :o))

Nguyen Vu Hung schrieb:
>On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier <
>[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thorsten Behrens schrieb:
>> >as we start to ramp up more infrastructure, I'd like to make
>> >you think about what's crucially needed to do QA for LibreOffice
>> >3.3.

>> >First of all, this is what we currently have:

>> <stretched>

[..]

>> > * the testtool (similar to OpenOffice.org)

>> </stretched>


>Do you mean VCLTestool - used for automated testing in LibO?

>Do we need a (VCLTesttool-used) test server? and
>Do we need a build server like Java Huson?

>That would be a big help (for QA members)

Shure? Maybe it's a great tool for developers but if it is a great tool
for QA members isn't proven yet.

[..]

>> >I know that the OpenOffice.org QA project has things like QATrack,
>> >QUASTe, and TCM - but I wonder which of those pass the test of "we
>> >really need it, and it's worth the effort to duplicate it/set it
>> >up".

>> >What do you think?

>> I'll put here a short draft of my dreams if I think of an efficient
>> QA

>> I think of three states the software idally should pass:

>> 1. The most recent developer build (nightly builds).

>The build takes days, so I would like weekly buids.

Even if actually reality. What I *like* were nightly builds! remember:
It's a dream and I'm not a developer :o))

>> 2. an "alive" release lets call it "LibO - fresh" which passed a
>> quite short beta period for early adopters, experienced users, and
>> "new features greedy" ones.

>I thought our developers would work on git/svn branches so we have lots
>of builds (like that way Linux kernel hackers do)

I freely admit: I don't understand what You are talking about..

>All the branches can combined as a "fresh" realease (.i.e. unstable)
>Combined works on the branches those are targeted for official
> releases, we will have RC1, RC2... versions.

As far as I see those RCs are made to ensure the release which will last
long time (i.e. 6 months) to keep free of bugs. I can't see that anyone
succeded that except microsoft. ;o))

I'd prefer to face reality of the (outer microsoft) world and have the
RCs substituted by nightly builds with fixed bugs - even that ones
appearing *after* releasing the last RC.

>This staging strategy will improve the quality of LibO - I hope.

I am with You! :o))

>> 3. a "mature" release which has passed ~6 months "fresh" state.

>> Question: How do us determine LibO's realease cycle.
>I want it to be as short as possible (6 months?)

Fits that the requirements of an office environment? I'm not shure.


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Friedrich

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