On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:52:41PM +0000, Lee Hyde wrote:
> original poster is making. Windows users are presented with a single
> setup.exe while debian/ubuntu users are presented with a multitude of
> individual .deb files. This is not user friendly!

Nonsense. dpkg -i *.deb is user friendly, despite what you want to claim.
That graphical tools might make it difficult is no argument.

> On 22/11/10 15:07, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> > There is no goddamn need for it. (That Ubuntu people in 90% of cases have
> > no clue how they do basic system tasks doesn't make it more needed)
> 
> This is a rather hostile attitude to show towards end users and an

If those end users don't think, yes, you're right.

> based operating systems in the past. If your position were to be taken
> to its logical conclusion we should scrap LibreOffice, which afterall is
> pandering to the masses with its use of GUI and WYSIWYG, in favour of TeX.

No, my position taken to the logical conclusion would not be that (as I think
there's use cases for GUIs - I didn't say anything against them here but just
mentioned that dpkg is basics - we don't need GUIs but that we need a "drivers 
license"
for computers. Mandatory for everyone who wants to use PCs.

The same as if you would not be allowed to drive a car if you don't know where
the steering wheel or the gas pedal is, neither would you be allowed to use a 
gear car
when you only know automatic.

Learn basics, or live with people telling you that you need to look at basics 
before
you do stuff.

Grüße/Regards,

René

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