Again, why just Thunderbird? Why not work with Mozilla (Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, 
Lightening/Sunbird, Firefox), Opera, GNOME (Evolution, etc), KDE (KMail, KPIM, 
etc.) to develop interfaces that can be used to integrate any of the various 
email and calendaring tools out there? Especially the open source ones.

There is no reason to limit people to just Thunderbird.

Ben



----- Original Message ----
> From: Jonathan Aquilina <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 2:04:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc
> 
> I agree with you totally here Jaime.
> 
> On 01/06/2011 07:30 AM, Jaime R.  Garza wrote:
> > I believe integrating Thunderbird would be more a marketing  move than
> > anything else, but marketing is very effective!!! So that's  why I think it
> > would be great if Thunderbird could be integrated  automatically with LO. As
> > I said before, a sort of container that can  select the applications ti be
> > installed, probably giving the option by  installation to select the
> > individual appliciations: Writer(Text P.),  Calc(Spreadsheet),
> > Impress(Presentations),..., Thunderbird(E-Mail),  Lightning(Calendar).
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Jaime R.  Garza
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 15:22, Christophe  Strobbe<
> > [email protected]>   wrote:
> >
> >> At 00:19 3/01/2011, Jonathan Aquilina  wrote:
> >>
> >>> What do other devs think about including  something as mentioned below
> >>> somehow in regards to a mail client  alternative to MS outlook?
> >>>
> >> I've been working without  an "integrated e-mail client" for years; it's 
not
> >> a priority for me.  However, when I recommended OpenOffice.org to another
> >> user  (before October last year), she asked if it also contained an  
Outlook
> >> alternative. I replied that alternatives exist elsewhere,  e.g. 
Thunderbird.
> >> (I just checked that Corel WordPerfect Office  Standard has Lightning and
> >> Thunderbird integrated. The toll of  Microsoft Office brainwashing? As far 
>as
> >> I can tell from the  Wikipedia entry, iWork does not have an e-mail client.
> >> Nor do  SoftMaker Office 2010 or Kingsoft Office 2010.)
> >>
> >> Without  a proper survey, we can probably only guess how many users expect
> >> an  e-mail cient in an office suite.
> >> So I can only offer my opinion: the  ability to interface with e-mail
> >> clients would be a useful feature.  Some users don't want to migrate to
> >> another mail client just because  it is included in the LibreOffice 
>download,
> >> but other users - I'm  thinking of users new to office suites and e-mail -
> >> may appreciate  some handholding. If an e-mail client were integrated in 
the
> >>  LibreOffice download, I would like the option to exclude it from the
> >>  installation and have the office suite interface with my installed  client
> >> (assuming that it implements the necessary  APIs).
> >>
> >> I haven't mentioned forking an existing mail  client; that's because I 
don't
> >> consider it a good way to use TDF  community resources.
> >>
> >> Best  regards,
> >>
> >>  Christophe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   On 1/2/11 7:49  PM, Charles Marcus wrote:
> >>>> On 2011-01-01 1:43 PM, Jonathan  Aquilina wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Whats really held  OOo and will hold LO back is the lack of an 
equivalent
> >>>>>  program such as outlook.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Well, I  disagree, but there is no way to prove one of us is right,  
so...
> >>>>
> >>>>   There are one of three ways  it can be done.
> >>>>> 1) fork something like evolution which  has all that done and integrate
> >>>>>  it
> >>>>> into the LO  suite
> >>>>>
> >>>> Evolution is extremely buggy,  *especially* on Windows, but yes, even on
> >>>> *nix... Yes, there  are many people who run it without problems, but
> >>>> there are  far more who complain of constant crashes and bugs, even on
> >>>>  the stablest of systems  (otherwise)...
> >>>>
> >>>>   2) or install  software that already exists in the open source arena.
> >>>>  Thunderbird+Lightning would be the best other choice here...not  perfect
> >>>> by any stretch, but the only viable FLOSS  alternative on Windows at the
> >>>> moment, at least that I am  aware of...
> >>>>
> >>>>   the problem with 2 is  that it will greatly increase the download size,
> >>>>>  which
> >>>>> would pose issues for people with slow  bandwidth.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Thunderbird+Lightning is  not that big...
> >>>>
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