hey, where did you get human rights there??? On 12.04.17 10:35, Yuriy Kargapolov wrote: > Volodya, > > Only about approach and principals. > To my mind, the profesional activity of RIR it's something other than > activity against violation human rights > And if someone from the human rights fighters will wants to tell us what > to do and how to react to the some facts? > Or I didn't understood somethings? > > Wednesday, April 12, 2017, 10:04:19 AM, you wrote: > > > Dmitry, > your position on this topic is clear. Since government of Russia, > actually, is closest to such "shutdown" scenario, you will not support > sanctions for this. > But this proposal is about how to deal with *attacks*. There are, > actually, three choices: ignore, be deeply concerned and penalize. Last > years from real world's life shown what happen if 1st and 2nd options > were chosen. > In the case we're discussing now, if RIRs think that somebody violates > human rights (even if local government don't think so) or attacks > Internet in any other way, RIRs need to actively react on this. > Actually, we all need to defend this territory as much as we can and > there is no place for inactivity and passive observation. > Thanks. > On 4/12/17 1:31 AM, Dmitry Burkov wrote: > > We need to stay absolutely neutral and leave politics to others > > > On 4/11/17 10:47 PM, Sergey Myasoedov wrote: > > Один из авторов прокомментировал так: This proposal opens a very > interesting debate about the neutrality stance in the face of what I > consider human rights abuses. > Should the RIR's stand neutral while it happens, or should they stand > and fight for the rights of the users and the members. > > > > > On 11 Apr 2017, at 21:30, Tigran Zakoyan <[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected]>wrote: > > Вообще-то, это не против стран и даже не против государств, это против > конкретных правительств. > > > вт, 11 Апр 2017 г., 22:20 Dmitry Burkov <[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected]>: > Группа сумасшедших решила вводить санкции против стран - good luck - > очень плохая идея и то - что > > я не принимаю - провокация в стиле попа Гапона ( это не к Сереже) > > > > > On 4/11/17 10:00 PM, Sergey Myasoedov wrote: > > Всем привет! > > В AfriNIC сегодня внесли предложение по изменению правил. Необычное. > > https://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/2061-anti-shutdown-01 > > > 13.1 In the event of an internet shutdown performed at the order of a > government that is either total or partial: > For a period of 12 months following the end of the shutdown – AFRINIC > will allocate no resources to the government of the country > This also applies to all government owned entities and entities that > have direct provable relationships with said government. > In the event of a transfer policy existing, AFRINIC shall not assist > or participate in any transfers to any of the entities above. > All sub-allocations of space within said country involving the > referred to entities shall equally cease for a period of 12 months. > > 13.2 In the event of a government performing 3 or more such shutdowns in > a period of 10 years – all resources to the aforementioned > entities shall be revoked and no allocations to said entities shall > occur for a period of 5 years. > > Ждем реакции сообщества. > > > > -- > Kind regards, > Sergey Myasoedov > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://www.enog.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://www.enog.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://www.enog.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://www.enog.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > > > > > /-- > > З повагою, > Ю. Каргаполов /mailto:[email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.enog.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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