It's very late here, but I'd be happy to work on that this week. I
fully expect someone to beat me to it, though.
Nice to see some momentum building. We can get this in pretty great
shape by the end of the week, although I should think it would take
most universities to reply to requests about policies a bit longer.
I'll start combing around the websites of universities I know for
empirical propaganda. ;) The surveys should take care of the other side
of the story, if it is for any reason necessary to draw such a
dichotomy.
Conor
Fred Benenson wrote:
The whole point should be to encourage people who don't
have a chapter to go discover these facts.
We should absolutely not make it a requisite that you have to have a
chapter, or even an interest in starting one, in order to help us.
FYI NYU's policy is pretty good -- they're really cagey about giving
out privacy information to non-supoenaing parties, and they let
students own their work and release it under CC / GPL / whatever.
I've also have had meetings with the Dean of Libraries and other big
people at NYU and they tend to be pretty accepting about Open Access
though not necessarily pro-active.
But their p2p policy is pretty stupid, they have plenty of double-speak
in it. Anyway, maybe I'll create an entry in here for it.
But I'd really like a chart -- does anyone want to make one? With nice
Red / Green backgrounds?
F
On 10/1/07, Elizabeth Stark <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Yes
certain high-up people have also indicated that they'd be
interested in a project like this.
I think it's important to communicate this to the chapters. I'll work
with Fred on cleaning up the "survey" and sending it out to chapters
more directly. Also, if people have contacts at other schools, no
reason why they can't also fill it out...
Once we get the PR, we should have a way for people to submit a survey
about their own school, even if they don't have a chapter yet.
On 10/1/07, Fred Benenson <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Ok, it's up, albeit sloppily:
>
>
> http://wiki.freeculture.org/Hit_List
>
> It needs a chart, but I'm too lazy to figure out how to do that
right now...
>
> So just add schools, links, etc.
>
> This is where we should work on this now.
>
> Once we get the page looking good, with some good examples, etc.
We should
> post to digg / boingboing / slashdot. It'll get a lot of good
press.
>
>
> F
>
>
>
> On 10/1/07, Fred Benenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Yes, good point -- eBook software "acceptance" is a good
issue.
> >
> > Also
> >
> > #5) Blackboard v. Sakai v. Moodle vs. etc.
> > What kind of courseware? is it open access? etc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/1/07, Conor Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Great list! Regarding the fourth point, I'd say that it
would behoove us
> to look into what kinds of electronic access the libraries use. For
> instance, I know some schools where PDFs of important articles are
scanned
> and then hosted to anyone logged onto the campus network (or
additionally
> via VPN). Other schools are much more locked down, mandating for
instance
> proprietary eBook reading software. I've read a lot, as I'm sure
you all
> have, about public libraries having the problem of satisfying the
masses,
> meaning essentially that because people aren't clamoring for open
access,
> they're not going to get it.
> > >
> > > Fred Benenson wrote:
> > >
> > > The only reason I'm currently "attributing" it to FC @
NYU is because
> I've brought up the hit list idea many many times on this list
before and
> while people sounded excited, it didn't really get anywhere.
> > >
> > > However, at a recent FC @ NYU meeting I had many people
agree to put in
> a couple hours to get the project done over the next semester or
so, so I
> figured we'd just take the reigns and go from there.
> > >
> > > So I'm not in this for the attribution -- I just want to
get it done,
> and now that there's renewed interest on the national level, I'm
happy to
> head it up. I'm going to create a wiki entry on the
FreeCulture.org wiki (FC
> @ NYU wiki's spam / content ratio was debilitating high so it's
dead now)
> soon and post the link here.
> > >
> > > The big things we want to get clear about are:
> > >
> > > 1) Student copyright policy
> > > What rights do students have to their work? Moreover,
are they allowed
> to freely license it?
> > >
> > > 2) p2p filesharing policy
> > > How willing is the university to play ball with
RIAA's extortionist
> tactics? Do they readily give up student information, or ban the
student
> from the network? 3 strikes? 1 strike? Do they offer services to
students
> who are sued? What is the party line about the copious amounts of
file
> sharing that is obviously going on on their campuses?
> > >
> > > 3) Privacy / Free Speech stuff
> > > Is running Tor legal? Can you protest easily?
> > >
> > > 4) Open Access
> > > How receptive are the librarians / academics to open
access
> publishing? This is a hard thing to quantify, but perhaps you guys
have some
> better ideas.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, will get this up soon.
> > >
> > >
> > > F
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/1/07, Conor Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Interesting: such a move would shift the focus of
the citation aspect
> of most free licenses away from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and more onto FC.org in
general, no?
> I'm neither disapproving of this myself, nor implying that Fred
might do
> so... I just find it an intriguing issue, given the content of this
> listserv!
> > > >
> > > > Of course it could be hosted on FC.org and still
credited to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> but wikiship means authorship would be a tricky business.
> > > >
> > > > Just enjoying the game, my friends....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Asheesh Laroia wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 1 Oct 2007, Fred Benenson wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Indeed, but couching it with enough context is what
makes an even
> bigger
> > > > splash.
> > > >
> > > > It's also a matter of timing on our side -- we have
a lot of events
> this
> > > > semester so we have to use our time wisely together.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We'll probably be picking universities in the next
week or two ...
> > > >
> > > > In the time before it's "released", I urge you to
work on it in some
> > > > collaborative medium like a wiki. I would think
it's okay if that work
> > > > happens in public, since you can "publish" a
version independent of
> the
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > wiki and call that the first published version.
> > > >
> > > > -- Asheesh.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > If a listener nods his head when you're explaining
your program, wake
> him up.
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