The whole point should be to encourage people who don't have a chapter to go discover these facts.
We should absolutely not make it a requisite that you have to have a chapter, or even an interest in starting one, in order to help us. FYI NYU's policy is pretty good -- they're really cagey about giving out privacy information to non-supoenaing parties, and they let students own their work and release it under CC / GPL / whatever. I've also have had meetings with the Dean of Libraries and other big people at NYU and they tend to be pretty accepting about Open Access though not necessarily pro-active. But their p2p policy is pretty stupid, they have plenty of double-speak in it. Anyway, maybe I'll create an entry in here for it. But I'd really like a chart -- does anyone want to make one? With nice Red / Green backgrounds? F On 10/1/07, Elizabeth Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes certain high-up people have also indicated that they'd be > interested in a project like this. > > I think it's important to communicate this to the chapters. I'll work > with Fred on cleaning up the "survey" and sending it out to chapters > more directly. Also, if people have contacts at other schools, no > reason why they can't also fill it out... > > Once we get the PR, we should have a way for people to submit a survey > about their own school, even if they don't have a chapter yet. > > On 10/1/07, Fred Benenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, it's up, albeit sloppily: > > > > > > http://wiki.freeculture.org/Hit_List > > > > It needs a chart, but I'm too lazy to figure out how to do that right > now... > > > > So just add schools, links, etc. > > > > This is where we should work on this now. > > > > Once we get the page looking good, with some good examples, etc. We > should > > post to digg / boingboing / slashdot. It'll get a lot of good press. > > > > > > F > > > > > > > > On 10/1/07, Fred Benenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, good point -- eBook software "acceptance" is a good issue. > > > > > > Also > > > > > > #5) Blackboard v. Sakai v. Moodle vs. etc. > > > What kind of courseware? is it open access? etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/1/07, Conor Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Great list! Regarding the fourth point, I'd say that it would > behoove us > > to look into what kinds of electronic access the libraries use. For > > instance, I know some schools where PDFs of important articles are > scanned > > and then hosted to anyone logged onto the campus network (or > additionally > > via VPN). Other schools are much more locked down, mandating for > instance > > proprietary eBook reading software. I've read a lot, as I'm sure you all > > have, about public libraries having the problem of satisfying the > masses, > > meaning essentially that because people aren't clamoring for open > access, > > they're not going to get it. > > > > > > > > Fred Benenson wrote: > > > > > > > > The only reason I'm currently "attributing" it to FC @ NYU is > because > > I've brought up the hit list idea many many times on this list before > and > > while people sounded excited, it didn't really get anywhere. > > > > > > > > However, at a recent FC @ NYU meeting I had many people agree to put > in > > a couple hours to get the project done over the next semester or so, so > I > > figured we'd just take the reigns and go from there. > > > > > > > > So I'm not in this for the attribution -- I just want to get it > done, > > and now that there's renewed interest on the national level, I'm happy > to > > head it up. I'm going to create a wiki entry on the FreeCulture.org wiki > (FC > > @ NYU wiki's spam / content ratio was debilitating high so it's dead > now) > > soon and post the link here. > > > > > > > > The big things we want to get clear about are: > > > > > > > > 1) Student copyright policy > > > > What rights do students have to their work? Moreover, are they > allowed > > to freely license it? > > > > > > > > 2) p2p filesharing policy > > > > How willing is the university to play ball with RIAA's > extortionist > > tactics? Do they readily give up student information, or ban the student > > from the network? 3 strikes? 1 strike? Do they offer services to > students > > who are sued? What is the party line about the copious amounts of file > > sharing that is obviously going on on their campuses? > > > > > > > > 3) Privacy / Free Speech stuff > > > > Is running Tor legal? Can you protest easily? > > > > > > > > 4) Open Access > > > > How receptive are the librarians / academics to open access > > publishing? This is a hard thing to quantify, but perhaps you guys have > some > > better ideas. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, will get this up soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > F > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/1/07, Conor Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Interesting: such a move would shift the focus of the citation > aspect > > of most free licenses away from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and more onto FC.org in > > general, > no? > > I'm neither disapproving of this myself, nor implying that Fred might do > > so... I just find it an intriguing issue, given the content of this > > listserv! > > > > > > > > > > Of course it could be hosted on FC.org and still credited to > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > but wikiship means authorship would be a tricky business. > > > > > > > > > > Just enjoying the game, my friends.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asheesh Laroia wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 1 Oct 2007, Fred Benenson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, but couching it with enough context is what makes an even > > bigger > > > > > splash. > > > > > > > > > > It's also a matter of timing on our side -- we have a lot of > events > > this > > > > > semester so we have to use our time wisely together. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We'll probably be picking universities in the next week or two ... > > > > > > > > > > In the time before it's "released", I urge you to work on it in > some > > > > > collaborative medium like a wiki. I would think it's okay if that > work > > > > > happens in public, since you can "publish" a version independent > of > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wiki and call that the first published version. > > > > > > > > > > -- Asheesh. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > If a listener nods his head when you're explaining your program, > wake > > him up. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Discuss mailing list > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Discuss mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Discuss mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Discuss mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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