"So please, next time, just spend 10 seconds explaining why you think your forward is relevant to this list. We're going for quality, not quantity." -Fred
Best, -Greg Elizabeth Ortlieb wrote: > Tell Walmart to STOP INTIMIDATING ITS WORKERS > Read and Sign the Petition please! -Elizabeth > > Barack Obama 08! > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > From: David Nassar, Wal-Mart Watch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:48 AM > To: Elizabeth Ortlieb > Subject: "Wal-Mart Warns of Democratic Win" > > > > Dear Elizabeth, > > You have to read this front-page story from today's Wall Street Journal: > > "Wal-Mart Warns of Democratic Win" > > According to the article, Wal-Mart is holding mandatory meetings with > supervisors and managers to warn them that if Senator Obama wins the > presidential election, Democrats will pass the Employee Free Choice Act to > unionize their stores. > > Why is Wal-Mart so worried? Because workers who have the power to stand up > to their employers have higher wages, better health care, and fairer work > places. > > You and I both know that Wal-Mart will do anything to get out of treating > its employees with the dignity and respect they deserve. > > Not only are Wal-Mart's actions morally despicable, they also raise legal > concerns. Tell Wal-Mart to stop intimidating its employees into voting > against Senator Obama: > > http://action.walmartwatch.com/voters > > Wal-Mart is notorious for its union-busting tactics. As the Wall Street > Journal article states: > > Through almost all of its 48-year history, Wal-Mart has fought hard to keep > unions out of its stores, flying in labor-relations rapid-response teams > from its Bentonville, Ark., headquarters to any location where union > activity was building. > With weakened workers' rights, Wal-Mart can bully its employees to skip > breaks and work "off the clock" for no pay. Wal-Mart has received numerous > fines for violating the Family and Medical Leave Act - firing employees for > taking federally protected medical leave. They've also received fines for > violating child labor laws and hiring undocumented immigrants to clean > stores after hours. > > We're not talking about one or two violations at rogue stores - we're > talking about calculated, systematic business decisions made at Wal-Mart's > headquarters that have resulted in millions of workers' rights being > violated. > > It's no wonder why Wal-Mart doesn't want to have to listen to its employees. > That's why our work is more important than ever right now. > > Show Wal-Mart that the country is listening - and we want workers to decide > for themselves how to vote: > > http://action.walmartwatch.com/voters > > Thanks for spreading the word about this breaking news story. > > Sincerely, > > David Nassar > Wal-Mart Watch > > > Paid for by WalmartWatch.com, a campaign of Five Stones and The Center for > Community and Corporate Ethics > > To unsubscribe: http://action.walmartwatch.com/unsubscribe > > > > > Elizabeth Ortlieb > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. > We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek." > -Barack Obama > > > --------------------------------------- > For Peace Day on 21 September... > I will volunteer time with my community to spread peace > What will you do? Visit www.peaceoneday.org > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clifford Conley Owens > III > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:14 PM > To: Discussion of Free Culture in general and this organization in > particular > Subject: Re: [FC-discuss] Civil Disobedience > > > > Nelson Pavlosky wrote: >> Clifford Conley Owens III wrote: >>> Nelson Pavlosky wrote: >>> >>>> Generally I would agree with Fred that until people are getting >>>> arrested, civil disobedience is not appropriate... but I would make >>>> significant exceptions. For example, in the Diebold memos example, >>>> if publishing the memos had not been fair use, people posting the >>>> memos probably would not have been subject to jail time, but they >>>> might have been subject to significant copyright damages. I still >>>> would have supported it as a civil disobedience. >>>> >>> I would not have. I think that the rebellion against authority is >>> only be justified when authority is causing you to do something >>> immoral or taking someone's life. I don't expect any of you to agree > with me. >> I'm going to let everything else slide, because this is the example >> which I think is actually important. >> >> Do you really believe that it would be better to allow Diebold to (1) >> abuse copyright law for purposes it was not Constitutionally meant to >> serve, to (2) crush our first amendment rights to essential political >> speech, in order to (3) suppress information about problems with our >> elections which might allow them to be fixed or decided by random >> chance / computer errors.... than to oppose an unjust law and get the >> information to the public necessary to alert them to a threat to the >> core of our democracy? In that case I think that sitting silently >> while democracy itself fades away would be an immoral thing to do. >> >> I'm not sure you're thinking this through. > I'm thinking this through. You could make noise without showing the emails. > You can talk about the constitution, but I don't think it's some inherent > right written in the heart of the universe. > > Once again, I don't expect anyone to agree with me, but I think there would > have to be something far more important than any free culture value being > threatened to warrant civil disobedience. > > I really probably shouldn't have started this discussion. It was just a > thought that came to mind as a reason I might leave this organization. > > ~Conley > >> Peace, >> ~Nelson~ >> >> P.S. Do you think the American Revolution was a just rebellion against >> authority? >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > -- > office: Torgersen 3180 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cell: (540) 597-8820 > xmpp: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > aim: vtconley > sip: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
