Django anyone!?!?!?!
http://madebyparker.com sent from my mobile On Dec 11, 2010 6:54 PM, "Alec Story" <[email protected]> wrote: > I was thinking less of sharing notes, and more of sharing term papers or > that sort of thing which we've been talking about putting out under free > licenses. There would be more issues associated with those. > > If somebody starts the project, I will be happy to help with coding. > > On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 3:48 PM, [email protected] < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Interesting on the cheating aspect, I haven't heard much about this, I >> suspect since it is common practice to share notes. If the content is >> unauthorized publishing of tests or direct answers, that could be a >> violation of academic integrity or conduct agreements, but if you put it in >> your TOS, you could probably significantly reduce the app providers' >> liability. >> >> The only issue I have seen is in curved classes students won't want to >> share notes, as it could affect their grade if others do well. Niranjan from >> inkling.com mentioned this from some informal interviews. >> >> The biggest issue for note-taking based on my research for OER at Berkeley >> is definitely the copyright issue noted earlier. Our professors retain >> copyright of their lectures and are free to license or transfer the right to >> reproduce the lecture, e.g. through notes/transcription. Thus students' >> notes can be infringements if permission or license are not given (unless >> there are fair use claims, which can be tricky). >> >> - Matt >> >> ----- Reply message ----- >> From: "Alec Story" <[email protected]> >> Date: Sat, Dec 11, 2010 12:30 pm >> >> Subject: [FC-discuss] Ideas for a Paper/Notes Sharing Webapp >> To: "Discussion of Free Culture in general and this organization in >> particular" <[email protected]> >> >> The downside to making submissions anonymous is that it increases the >> likelihood of spam. >> >> Another issue: some schools may view sharing this content as aiding >> cheating, and could take disciplinary action against students. We should >> look into policies on that. >> >> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Rich Jones <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > @Adi - so no offense to your friend, but this website is kiiinnddaaa >> lame. >> > Requires accounts and it pretty much only has any content from Harvard. >> > Apparently he's been working on this for over a year and I'm sure we >> could >> > make something better in less than a week. The content is also -NC. >> Still, >> > it shows there is a demand for this kind of service. >> > >> > @Alec Story - I was assuming that the submissions would be anonymous by >> > default. No barriers to consumption and no barriers to submission. >> > >> > R >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Alec Story <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> One thing about sharing notes or papers: it would be very useful to >> have >> >> an anonymized form. While I might be happy to share a paper, I might >> not be >> >> happy to let future employers read papers I wrote, particularly without >> the >> >> context of the class to explain them - it's entirely possible to have a >> >> teacher require a paper defending a difficult or commonly-disagreed-with >> >> point of view as an intellectual exercise. >> >> >> >> Ideally, this anonymization wouldn't be correlated across user accounts >> to >> >> prevent people from piecing the data together. Just "anonymous" would >> be >> >> sufficient. >> >> >> >> RE cheating, if this gets up and running, providing API support for >> >> anti-plagiarism software would be a nice touch. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Adi Kamdar <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I've been chatting with Andrew Magliozzi, who's working on >> FinalsClub.org >> >>> (awful name, I know). It's a non-profit note-sharing site, and he just >> got a >> >>> bunch of money from the Hewlett Foundation (I think) to move forward >> with >> >>> this. I'm preeettty sure the licensing scheme for the site is >> >>> choose-your-own-CC, though I'm not entirely sure. >> >>> >> >>> The point is, he's just underwent going through a pretty big survey of >> >>> students regarding whether or not they would use something like this, >> what >> >>> they would want from this, chief concerns, etc. He's always looking for >> >>> feedback/input, and it might be useful to reach out to him. >> >>> >> >>> -Adi >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Rich Jones <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I've haven't seen those two services before, but I have seen others >> just >> >>>> like them, and I think they're _crap_. >> >>>> There's no need to make this any more complicated than it needs to be, >> >>>> and I think the mandatory login is a bunch of bullshit. Very >> >>>> pyramid-schemey. >> >>>> >> >>>> Integrating directly into the note taking application is a nifty idea >> - >> >>>> a piratepad/unnamedSFCnotesapp mashup would be pretty neat - let >> people in >> >>>> the same class take notes together, then publish them directly for >> everybody >> >>>> else. Maybe a feature we can work on after then initial push. >> >>>> >> >>>> R >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> Love the idea of making things that students can use! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> There seem to be two parts of the note-sharing idea: >> >>>>> * Taking the notes >> >>>>> * Sharing the notes >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Two existing note-sharing services to take a look at: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://www.notetopia.com/ >> >>>>> * (for some reason @usc.edu won't get me in...) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://www.noteutopia.com/ >> >>>>> * (this caused a bunch of controversy because they buy/sell the >> notes) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I'm certain that there are others ... >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The note TAKING step seems just as compelling, though. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On one extreme, I see many many students taking notes in the >> Microsoft >> >>>>> Office notetaking program (OneNote)? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On the other, my personal note-taking workflow involves vim + >> >>>>> mediawiki. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> What's a good half-way point between these approaches that encourages >> >>>>> sharing? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Some of my classmates swear by a non-free Mac program called >> Scrivener: >> >>>>> http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php >> >>>>> >> >>>>> And I know some others who have a similar relationship to Zim: >> >>>>> http://zim-wiki.org/ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Maybe a specially modified version of Piratepad for students? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> A project like this could start a bigger conversation about the best >> >>>>> tools/practices for students who care about their computing freedom. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Exciting stuff! >> >>>>> Kevin >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Parker <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Just wanted to chime in on the idea of making it about student papers >> >>>>> and not notes: >> >>>>> I have this feeling that making it about student papers is more of a >> >>>>> positive statement and less subversive. I'm kind of having trouble >> >>>>> justifying that feeling, though--maybe I'm crazy, or maybe someone >> can >> >>>>> back me up. >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Alec Story > Cornell University > Biological Sciences, Computer Science 2012
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