This is an understandable, and difficult, tension.

  I thought relational DBs were part of Data Carpentry more than SC? It
was my understanding that VC/shell/programming language were *required*
components of a SC workshop, although obviously people will bend the
rules ...


On 2018-08-07 07:23 PM, Jason Moore via discuss wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> For a number of years, software carpentry would teach 4 things at every
> workshop: version control, shell, relational databases, and a
> programming language intro. There were some options, like git vs
> mercurial or r vs matlab vs python, but if you went to a workshop you'd
> get these 4 skills.
> 
> This was quite convenient because I knew if I sent my new students to
> the latest nearby workshop they'd come back with those basic building
> blocks in place and could start working with my group on projects.
> 
> Now, I see announcements of new workshops nearby and get excited to let
> my new students know about them, but once I look closer the lessons are
> all over the place. In fact, I've seen few recently that hit the SWC 4
> skills and I really really want my students to get those under their
> belt as a foundation. I've resorted to sending them to videos of those
> lessons instead.
> 
> The diversity in lessons is great in one aspect, but we never really
> know what we are going to get. The consistency of SWC lessons had many
> advantages and I didn't care much whether the students learned git or
> mercurial or any of the difference languages, only that they got those 4
> skills.
> 
> Anyone else have this thought? And if so, are there any ideas for
> improvement?
> 
> Jason
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